Antonio Conte (226 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Paid-off-Ref

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2004
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So we are on this thing all over again?. What are the chances of him getting punished again?
I'd say a lot solely based on what happened last year. This time they have even less evidence, but you know evidence doesn't matter to them. Last year Palazzi originally tried to get Conte convicted for participating in match fixing, now it looks like he has to settle with another failure to report. After the inevitable three trials we are going to have to go through I expect his sentence might be only two months (since the accusations aren't as grave as in 2012). But then again, this comes from the gut and I'm not expert on show trials.

And for all the kids out there, NEVER GIVE PALAZZI AND THE FIGC THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Here's the thing. Conte will be checked out of the criminal case by the investigators in Bari, because in order to convict someone by Criminal Law, you have to be 98 % certain they did the Crime. Italy, among other European states, have ratified the Human Rights Convention, and it's article 6 no. 2 places strict demands on evidence in criminal cases.

However, in Italian sports law, in order to receive sporting sanctions (such as bans etc.), it's quite a different matter. Because such sanctions aren't "punishment" in the legal sense of the word (being something that the state through it's people [the legal branch] does to a citizen when he or her hasn't complied with stategiven (criminal) law), but rather something that has the character of a more private sanction within the sporting system itself.

In this system, it will be up to Palazzi to interpret the statements of Kutuzov, and if he finds that there are grounds for deferring Conte for failure to report again, he most definitely will.

Like some of you already said, we all know how this is going to end. It's very likely that Palazzi will recommend that Conte should be banned again, because if he doesn't do that he will make his former decisions look bad. What he did this summer has probably set a sporting law precedence. We know how little it takes to be deferred to the FIGC for failure to report, and my bet is that Kutuzov's testimony will be sufficient.

It's gonna be bye bye all over again.

What I said in a nutshell:

In order to convict someone by criminal law, the demands for proof is 98 %.
In order to receive sporting sanctions, the demands for proof is 50,01 % (overweight of probability).

If Palazzi can create that overweight of probability, Conte will be banned.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Palazzi and co. are probably trying to put pressure on Conte over and over again until he decides to quit Juve and Italy and go to Spain or England.
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Yep. This sporting law system is terribly outdated, and people such as Agnelli and others are calling out for a reform. But as it stands now, all of these rules are in effect, and Conte is trapped in the spider's web.

I wouldn't be surprised if he quit football altogether if he was to receive another ban. He's a man of honor and integrity, after all. You could clearly tell how much the last sanction hurt him.
 

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