Antonio Conte (201 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Lot of people going over the top, let's wait until August 2nd. A deferral is not the same as a charge, it just means that they believe the account(s) given warrant further investigation.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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This is what a Gazzetta journalist has written:

It's a first victory for Antonio Conte defense. The prosecutor has accepted the theory that the Juventus manager wasn't directly involved in the match-fixing. Or, we will see from the documents, has anyway believed not good enough the proofs or the witnesses about him. Or - it is even possible - the prosecutor matched the elements in the way that would tell that Antonio Conte was informed of the fixing but didn't took part

Biggest step for Antonio Conte, because in a different case he might have fear to be banned for 3 years. Plus, it would be have be very difficult to completely turn around the charging of match-fixing in front of the judge. Still, now the situation is not easy: because Antonio Conte will actually be judged for a two cases of 'omitted denunciation'. Two cases, or in other words, reinforcing the idea that he knew but that he didn't denounce.

Actually the maximum sentence for Antonio Conte 'omitted denunciation' would be 3 months. But as long as he will be sentenced for two different cases, in the worst situation he might face a double 3 months ban, that - as the point deduction for a team - would be simply added. All in all the situation now it is much smoother because the most important point scored by Conte's lawyers has been partly devaluating the witness words

because according to what was leaked from the witness audition, it seemed very likely a direct involvement of him in the match-fixing. With this step instead, Conte's lawyers as first result broke the full confidence that there was from the prosecutors on the witness words - or at least demonstrated how the direct links aren't that direct in the end

But the fact that the witness allegations vs Antonio Conte have been partly denied (or anyway, valuated in a different way) it's a thing that might highly influence the judge. The main point now would be to demonstrate to the judges: 1. The not total reliability of the witness words; 2. The misinterpretation of what was said by Antonio Conte in changing room. And after this, the judge might be open to accept this

Next steps and scenario on Antonio Conte's trial: around 6th august the first sentence should be announced; second degree by mid-august, and finally everything should be done within 26th august - first Serie A match-day. Of course, in the best case, Antonio Conte would be totally discharged of any allegations; in the worst, will be sentenced to 6 months ban. But, if found guilty, at this point might also received a light ban (some 2 months total) that could be reduced even more in the further degrees

On 2nd august the Juventus manager might decide to go for negotiation with the judges. That would mean that he would receive a 3 months ban, but that legally he couldn't be considered guilty (don't ask me why it is in this way - italian legal system...). In case he would decide not to pick this option, the sentence on him in the trial might be even worst. But according to what happened, it would be hard that the judge would go harsher than the prosecutor (this last sentence is not a fact but only my comment)
 

sidd

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Sep 1, 2005
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Anyone know the other major serie A players indicted, apart from criscito and mauri?? Incredibly hard to believe the major names once in the smaller leagues now all play for Juve. We win the league , this is what happens, time for the management to show some balls and defend all staunchly till proven guilty
 

JuveJay

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Can people stop asking questions no one knows the answer to.

We don't know what will happen. They won't ban people just 'because they work for Juventus', this investigation is not centered around us. It's only the media who stir up the Juventus aspect, shit sells.

In terms of percentages there is a good chance they will be acquitted or fined. With a guilty verdict it is also likely Palazzi will throw hefty charges around, that's standard procedure in his job. Then there would be certain appeals and most probably reductions.

But we don't really know. Don't lose any sleep over it.

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He will receive ban for something he did not legally guilty, I dont understand law systems but this is f'd up.
The deferral is for 'not reporting suspected illegal activity'.
 

I am John

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May 1, 2012
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Can people stop asking questions no one knows the answer to.

We don't know what will happen. They won't ban people just 'because they work for Juventus', this investigation is not centered around us. It's only the media who stir up the Juventus aspect, shit sells.

In terms of percentages there is a good chance they will be acquitted or fined. With a guilty verdict it is also likely Palazzi will throw hefty charges around, that's standard procedure in his job. Then there would be certain appeals and most probably reductions.

But we don't really know. Don't lose any sleep over it.

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The deferral is for 'not reporting suspected illegal activity'.
I dont understand what deferral is, and other terms in law, but yea I guess we'll just have to wait and see :)
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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What would Conte have to bargain?
He would have to tell the judge that he knew, but he feared reprisals from those involved etc. He would basically have to admit that he knew, even if he didn't.

You probably know this but in sporting trial you are guilty until proven innocent. If he goes on and maintains his innocence he *could* be banned for several months.

For the record, I fully support Conte and trust him 100%.
 

JuveJay

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I dont understand what deferral is, and other terms in law, but yea I guess we'll just have to wait and see :)
In this context deferral means the case will be heard at a later date.

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He would have to tell the judge that he knew, but he feared reprisals from those involved etc. He would basically have to admit that he knew, even if he didn't.
I don't think that is possible at this stage, as Conte has sworn under oath that he knew nothing of it. Essentially he could end up with a large ban. I'd just take on the current case, and put it through appeals.

The main problem with this whole thing is that it is going to affect the start of our season.
 
May 22, 2007
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It's getting really fucking boring reading everyone claim that if something happens, it's because someone is out to get him.

Any sort of minor ban would stay with him for life in Italian football, I think he's proud and would want his name cleared at all costs.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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It's getting really fucking boring reading everyone claim that if something happens, it's because someone is out to get him.

Any sort of minor ban would stay with him for life in Italian football, I think he's proud and would want his name cleared at all costs.
hardly matters since he'll be our coach from now and till he quits football :heart:
 

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