Antonio Conte (133 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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That is the mentality that will never get this club to the next level. We all love Lippi but how can you judge when the man has not even written one page in his coaching chapter at this club?
The only thing worse is Moggi>All.

I get that Moggi was a brilliant director, but he is not coming back. Neither is Lippi and it's for the best.
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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That is the mentality that will never get this club to the next level. We all love Lippi but how can you judge when the man has not even written one page in his coaching chapter at this club?
Perhaps he meant up until now ! Lippi at this moment is definitely > all

In the future who knows, maybe Conte will even becomes better !!
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Lippi is my favourite manager of all time, no doubt about it. But like Dru says, Lippi/Moggi era is over, this is a new leaf for Juve with Conte at the helm now lets just sit back and hope the good times return.
 

Giova21

luca6permi#1
Dec 20, 2011
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What I love about Conte is that he wasn't given a cushy job straight away. He had to fight his way to Juventus, a real fighter. He reminds me of Lippi. I think that after a long time, he is one of the truly great Italian managers. There were some solid ones in the mean time like Macini, Allegri, Guidolin and Ancelotti but not one a true great like Lippi.
As much as I think he's doing a great job for Juventus so far, don't speak too soon. He's on his way to building a great team in Torino but he hasn't won anything yet, if he goes on to achieve as much as Lippi in his time then sure, talk like this is accepted but yeah, for now he's just a very good manager, and I'd actually say he's better than Allegri perhaps tactics wise but crucially at this moment in time Allegri has won a league title already, in a similar space of time in his career.

Same goes for Ancelotti, who got very lucky sure with such an incredible squad at his disposal, but he still went on to win big trophies even if he underachieved in the league (he was competing against a certain Lippi and then later Moratti for most of it). Good luck to Conte and the club sure but, regardless of Lippi's Juventus (and his achievements with said team) being a thing of the past, such a comparison is really, really premature.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,096
As much as I think he's doing a great job for Juventus so far, don't speak too soon. He's on his way to building a great team in Torino but he hasn't won anything yet, if he goes on to achieve as much as Lippi in his time then sure, talk like this is accepted but yeah, for now he's just a very good manager, and I'd actually say he's better than Allegri perhaps tactics wise but crucially at this moment in time Allegri has won a league title already, in a similar space of time in his career.

Same goes for Ancelotti, who got very lucky sure with such an incredible squad at his disposal, but he still went on to win big trophies even if he underachieved in the league (he was competing against a certain Lippi and then later Moratti for most of it). Good luck to Conte and the club sure but, regardless of Lippi's Juventus (and his achievements with said team) being a thing of the past, such a comparison is really, really premature.
I don't rate Allegri at all to be honest. He is lucky to have the best team in the league and have the most effective game changer in Ibra.

His tactics are shit and the style of play Milan use is extremely ugly. Conte has way more going for him tactically IMO.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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He is not, the same thing was being said about Ancelotti when he was with Milan. He was shit without Sheva, then shit without Kaka etc.

When he left to Chelsea all of a sudden he became world class.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,096
Do you think Allegri is a good coach, JCK?

BTW I never said those things of Ancelotti, I always thought he was a class coach, one of the best in the business. Still do, Chelsea should never have sacked him. I just don't think Allegri is anywhere near Carletto's class.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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He is not, the same thing was being said about Ancelotti when he was with Milan. He was shit without Sheva, then shit without Kaka etc.

When he left to Chelsea all of a sudden he became world class.
World class with Chelsea? Don't think so. He was already a great coach in Milan.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
Do you think Allegri is a good coach, JCK?

BTW I never said those things of Ancelotti, I always thought he was a class coach, one of the best in the business. Still do, Chelsea should never have sacked him. I just don't think Allegri is anywhere near Carletto's class.
I think he is a good coach, his football is not fancy but it is efficient. He looks to me like a good man manager. When Ancelotti was at Milan I thought his man management was better than his tactics and that was a good reason for his success, something that Terim failed to do with the same squad. I always thought Ancelotti at first inherited Terim's tactics but his man management was needed to achieve what Milan did in his era. I am not saying that Allegri is close to what Ancelotti is, I am just saying that the same thing was being said year after year until he left Milan. It was ONLY then that Juventus fans admitted what a coach he was.

World class with Chelsea? Don't think so. He was already a great coach in Milan.
I did not say he was world class with Chelsea, I only said that people said he was average all the time he was at Milan and only admitted his greatness when he left Milan.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,096
Fair enough JCK.

Interesting about the man management point, because there is an interview in todays' CDS with Pato and he says that Allegri doesnt talk to him enough (about his performances and tactics etc) and he should learn to, like Leonardo and Carlo did. I hope these words create tension in the Milan camp and ruin team harmony.
 

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