Allegri Was chosen as the best manager in the league with "Cagliari" during a time when mourinho was part of this league ! If that is not good enough, I don't know what is !!
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Even if he's the second best manager in the league, with a small club like Cagliari. That's pretty impressive in itself.
As jack said, this argument is similar to what was been said about ancielloti during his Milan years. And also similar to what was been said about del bosque during his time with Madrid. I remember people saying that he was lucky for having such a gifted team back then and very few gave him credit for winning the champions league and la liga titles and when he got fired, Madrid went to a serious of disastrous seasons after that.
As jack said, this argument is similar to what was been said about ancielloti during his Milan years. And also similar to what was been said about del bosque during his time with Madrid. I remember people saying that he was lucky for having such a gifted team back then and very few gave him credit for winning the champions league and la liga titles and when he got fired, Madrid went to a serious of disastrous seasons after that.
Ancelotti's tactics developed with his time at Milan, during his first couple of years they were extremely boring and reliant on personal brilliances, Sheva first, Kaka later on. The exact same thing that is happening with Allegri nowadays. But if one goes beyond that, there is more to the picture. In order for a team to rely on the personal achievement of one or two players, things should be done in the background. This is what Ancelotti started doing and this is what Allegri is doing right now.
And without a Milan reject where would Juventus be? They're definitely better with Pirlo, a team full of willing runners to both supply options for him and defend him and rescue the ball, and give it to him, is what he was missing at Milan and had seemingly lost motivation to make any effort. I've not watched Juventus enough to see how they function without him, has he played every game?
Thanks for turning the Conte thread into the Milan thread, I think I love you.
I wasn't there that day, it was solely the Curva Sud, so to call it 'you guys' is somewhat misguided. I don't associate with them at all, fair enough my signature resembles a banner they had up but I was actually holding up part of the display on that day on primo anello blu.
Thanks for turning the Conte thread into the Milan thread, I think I love you.
I wasn't there that day, it was solely the Curva Sud, so to call it 'you guys' is somewhat misguided. I don't associate with them at all, fair enough my signature resembles a banner they had up but I was actually holding up part of the display on that day on primo anello blu.
Yeah, they were very static and reliant on individuals at times, but the 2005 team was great.
Nesta and Stam at CB; Cafu bombing up the right; Pirlo in control of everything; Gattuso running around like a madman; Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko on their prime; and Crespo or Inzaghi up front.
Couldn't finish ahead of Juve, but a more entertaining team to watch, generally.
Nesta and Stam at CB; Cafu bombing up the right; Pirlo in control of everything; Gattuso running around like a madman; Seedorf, Kaka, Shevchenko on their prime; and Crespo or Inzaghi up front.
Couldn't finish ahead of Juve, but a more entertaining team to watch, generally.
I'm just making conversation mate, and ah okay, any other games he's not featured in where Juventus were just as good with him? I can't defend Allegri to the death but he's achieved more than Conte, sure with a better squad but until Conte wins something the debate between the two is kinda pointless. You can have a squad full of champions and achieve nothing if you don't arrange the team correctly.
2005 Milan was my second favourite team ever, the 2nd leg against ManUtd was a brilliant game, sure it was only 1-0 but ManU stood no chance, Milan could've had so many that game. 2002 Brazil was my favourite, couldn't defend for shit but did that matter? Did it shit, they ripped everyone apart with stupendous football, scoring one of my most favourite goals ever, Edmilson's bicycle kick after bringing it out of the defense against Costa Rica.
2005 Milan was my second favourite team ever, the 2nd leg against ManUtd was a brilliant game, sure it was only 1-0 but ManU stood no chance, Milan could've had so many that game. 2002 Brazil was my favourite, couldn't defend for shit but did that matter? Did it shit, they ripped everyone apart with stupendous football, scoring one of my most favourite goals ever, Edmilson's bicycle kick after bringing it out of the defense against Costa Rica.
I was a big admirer of that Milan side also, Sheva and Crespo up front was a great partnership, Kaka in behind with 2 classy players behind him in Seedorf & Pirlo with the bulldog Gattuso alongside them, one of the best teams to lose a CL final in my view. Alot better to watch than we were in that period under Capello.
I'm not blaming anyone but Pirlo. He was offered the same amount Juventus are paying him if I'm not mistaken and this wasn't enough so he left, joins a big club and has a new lease of life and does something faster than a light jog which I'd not see for a good few years. I just think it's a bit fucking cheeky from the man personally, good luck to Juventus with him but I'm sure I'm not alone in losing all respect for the man I once felt was equally as responsible for the WC in 06 as Cannavaro and Gattuso.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. The season is only 17 games young, and we have yet to see how we react to a defeat, or finish out the season with 21 games remaining.
We are sorely lacking in quality in certain areas, and as of yet, we haven't won or accomplished anything. Let's wait until the end of the season before passing definitive judgment.
As it stands, Milan are the champions, and we are the pretenders.
We are sorely lacking in quality in certain areas, and as of yet, we haven't won or accomplished anything. Let's wait until the end of the season before passing definitive judgment.
As it stands, Milan are the champions, and we are the pretenders.