Antonio Conte (173 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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so many good options but I guess he didn't like the fans calling him a pig. :D



An old Indian told me once that sometimes players can make coaches great. Let's hope it's the case here.




another one told me when you mix crap with crap you get crap but he was smoking too much of that good stuff. :p
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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so many good options but I guess he didn't like the fans calling him a pig. :D



An old Indian told me once that sometimes players can make coaches great. Let's hope it's the case here.




another one told me when you mix crap with crap you get crap but he was smoking too much of that good stuff. :p
Old indian? Vikash Dhorasoo?
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
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Conte's appointment feels like groundhog day - he might have a fighting spirit and a different personality, but it just seems like Ferrara all over again.

Early clues to his success or failure will be shown in the way he handles the transfer season and demands players. If he just sits and listens to Marotta then we're doomed. If he demands and gets the players he wants, we may be in for a good season.

The upcoming transfer window will show his true colours even before the season begins
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I don't think Conte accepted job out of selfish reasons. Today beeing our coach is very risky job. If results don't match expectations the coach, no metter who he is, will be the first one to blame. If he fails it can only be a step backward in his career. For me he is a good choice. I would give him 3 out of 5, but also I think that there weren't many candidates for our job. Other good coaches simply avoid us, because we are as I said risky buissnes. How many times have we read the names of Capello, Hidink, Benitez (even though he sucks as a coach), Spalleti, most recently Boas, and in the and we would get Ferrara, Del Neri or now Conte. We should give Conte support and hope for the best. In a field he was our saviour, giving goals in the last minutes. Does anybody remember CL quater finals against Panathinaikos and Conte's goal which took us to semis and many more decisive goals, I hope he will continue with saving us only this time in a different role.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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If we are going to compare Marotta with Secco then it would only be wise to compare their first seasons at the club and how they went about rebuilding.

Both signed a load of players but at least Marotta signed players which have been used regularly and have a future at the club such as Krasic, Bonucci, Quag, Matri and maybe to a lesser extent Aquilani.

Ranieri didn't even play half the signings Secco made such as Almiron, Tiago, Criscito, Andrade (because of injury) and we only did well that year because of our Champions.
We also got Iaquinta, Momo, Brazzo and Grygera. They have been more than bit part players. Marotta made signings like Pepe, Martinez, Motta etc. (I'm purely talking on Serie A perspective here) The biggest difference is between hiring Ranieri and Del Neri. Also remember that Secco was a rookie, while Marotta is the 'experienced' one.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Personally i m not scared to have a say, i m proud of my instincts, because i m usually right. (as history has proven time and time again)
And its not just intuition, i have the exp of decades of watching Juve's progress/performance and i have a huge amount of info available.
I do posses the ability to distance my self from positive thinking and make a cold, but objective assesment, no matter how painful it is, even if the matter affects my personally.
And many other reasons that give me the opportunity, to see and draw conclusions, younger/less exp ppl, dont...

I know Conte is not that stupid, he has always been cunning on and off the field, he has always been a realist, he cannot be that stupid to believe that he can win under these circumstances.
He invests on some media light and the chance to become a serie A coach in the long run. (not with us of course)
Instead of taking the challenge to earn this status with a team he has built, a team he has promoted in serie A and a team who was made competitive to stay there.
He prefers the easy solution, to become the next scapegoat of the agnelli, in a former prestigious club, that still holds some sentimental value in Italy. (but nonetheless, even ranking 7th, still ranks him ahead of any serie B coach)

He sets the bar so high, that any realistic goal would seem a failure, -> it is certain that he sees us as smth ephemeral, just the next step to his carrier.
He reminds me of some young and unproven models/actresses/singers that fall in a famous man bed and start gloating about marriage, (when they know they are just the girl of the weekend) just to gain that ephemeral media attention and raise their popularity, enough to help them make the next step... enough to ensure that the masses will remember their name...
We have seen it so many times, it is hardly a guess, it is rule that has been confirmed again and again, with rare exceptions.

DD refused to play the game of our owners, ferrara took the boat out of destruction and then foolishly stood for the ride, cause he never backed down from a challenge.
But Conte now, does is it on purpose, he has seen how the club acted and he is just taking advantage of the situation, for his personal interest alone and tries to present it like he is doing us a favor, although knowing that the lack of his exp and knowledge will further limit our already very limited chances.
Thats immoral IMO and disgraceful as a Juventino...imo...
LOL
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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@Cron: That's a bit harsh. Agreed that he may not be what we need or want at this stage of Project Geronimo, but to knock on him personally, saying he's taking advantage of our situation is a little unfair IMO.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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:agree:

I hope he does well, for his sake and ours. But with the kind of players we are getting at the moment, it looks bleak.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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I agree with Cronios. Conte will fail. He knows it, we know it. He should have reject the offer and should not be part of Marotta's imbecility but it seems his personal ambition has clouded his mind and surpassed his Juventus love.
 

JCK

Biased
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May 11, 2004
125,382
I agree with Cronios. Conte will fail. He knows it, we know it. He should have reject the offer and should not be part of Marotta's imbecility but it seems his personal ambition has clouded his mind and surpassed his Juventus love.
Will 2011 be the year you commit suicide or will you survive until 2012?
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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That's such a childish and simplistic view. Blame the people hiring him and blame him for his tactics/formations/all that shit. But blaming him for saying yes to a once in a lifetime opportunity? That's stupid.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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Opportunity of what? Being called Cunte? Especially while there is an example like Ferrara, this mistake should not be committed by Conte. His over-confidence will fuck Juventus up again. I still hope for opposite but there is little chance of success.
 

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