Antonio Conte (95 Viewers)

[Siamak]

was his performance better than what allegri is doing now? With an out of form Pirlo, Vidal and Barzagli gone all season.and can he bring italy NT into glory?
We should have had at least 6 more points, the missed penalty by Vidal and last week against Roma. If he were still manager we'd up by 20 points And been playing Europa League instead of Champions League.

 

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[Hydde]

CL at all cost.

Maybe not at all cost but that is our highest priority of we want the Juve name to reach its former glory.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I mean it's not like a former coach of Juve that brought us trophies has ever left and coached for a rival

exactly. some have such short memories

 

[ALC]

The only thing here that's short is your penis.

 

[Post Ironic]

What we all know, is that Conte is all about Conte. Always has been, always will.

If Calciopoli had happened while Conte was here, he would have been the first one packing his bags to go to Inter.

He's no Nedved, DP, Buffon... He's a legend, but an egotistical, selfish one.

 

[Hist]

CL at all cost.

Maybe not at all cost but that is our highest priority of we want the Juve name to reach its former glory.

Definitely. For financial reasons more than anything. The extra revenue we make by finishing 1st instead of second in Serie A is probably much less than the difference between a quarter final or last 16 finish and a group stage exit (Or so I think).

Also in commercial terms, I think an extra serie A title on the back of four previous ones gives less of an increase in number of fans than the increase that good CL runs would get us. I am sure it also matters more to our sponsors to get european exposure than just italian.

We need to keep challenging for Serie A consistently while getting past the group stage on a regular basis until we have the financial power to compete with the rich folk. At the very least until we could buy 1 star player per window that isn't finished or kicked out of his team due to injury, poor form discipline etc..

 

[mukumsplau]

Badass will start supporting Milan if it happened.

Fag_ass Muntari

with his level of juve-bitching and allegri hating he will be an overlord across there...they will use his pimp photo (have u seen it?) as forum wallpaper...they will create rainbow coloured mod username...not black or blue or green...when he sleeps the forum is closed..when he awakes it is online again...he will be their air, their food, their water...the helpful bacteria in their intestinal tract..

gonna take that infraction on my chest cuz...

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Fagass_Muntari love it

 

[Hist]

What we all know, is that Conte is all about Conte. Always has been, always will.

If Calciopoli had happened while Conte was here, he would have been the first one packing his bags to go to Inter.

He's no Nedved, DP, Buffon... He's a legend, but an egotistical, selfish one.

First off, leaving Juve when they hit Serie B is not a selfish act. A player that chooses not to sacrifice his career for a club is not necessarily a selfish player. Some players left to better clubs like Madrid and Barca while others went to our direct rivals. They are not all the same. Players who did choose to stay are very much praised and loved for that. Why? because they did the unexpected out of loyalty to the club. What they did for us was great because it is unexpected and is unusual for a footballer to do.

I also don't think he would have went to Inter. He would have left probably yes but probably to EPL or to NT

 

[Post Ironic]

Totally a selfish act. They had to sacrifice one year to get back to Serie A. Bunch of disloyal turds.

And Conte would have done the same as a player. If Calciopoli had happened in 1999 or 2000, Conte would have been gone like a bat out of hell. And probably straight to Inter or Milan.

 

[zizinho]

First off, leaving Juve when they hit Serie B is not a selfish act. A player that chooses not to sacrifice his career for a club is not necessarily a selfish player. Some players left to better clubs like Madrid and Barca while others went to our direct rivals. They are not all the same. Players who did choose to stay are very much praised and loved for that. Why? because they did the unexpected out of loyalty to the club. What they did for us was great because it is unexpected and is unusual for a footballer to do.

I also don't think he would have went to Inter. He would have left probably yes but probably to EPL or to NT

wat?

 

[mukumsplau]

Totally a selfish act. They had to sacrifice one year to get back to Serie A. Bunch of disloyal turds.

And Conte would have done the same as a player. If Calciopoli had happened in 1999 or 2000, Conte would have been gone like a bat out of hell. And probably straight to Inter or Milan.

if he cant go further with a record setting winning team as a coach i doubt he wouldve stuck around in serie b as a player

 

[HAZEM]

With all due respect to Conte. i respect him for all he did with us. but tbh i don't see any inferiority in Allegri's team to miss Conte. i don't see him offering anything new. however with Allegri i feel we are more comfortable at the CL.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Conte originally gave us a winning mentality, then for some reason he fucked that up in Europe by telling everybody and their mothers how we were 7th not so long ago and we don't have the resources to compete.

I'm glad we moved on from him, not because I think Allegri is better but because Conte had ran out of tricks and whilst i'm fine with a boring style of play that brings results, playing tear inducing slow motion football and doing shit in Europe is my limit.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Does anyone honestly think we would have beaten Dortmund with Conte? I have my doubts, I reckon we'd have lost that game and been susceptible all game to their counter attacks. Conte is a better coach than Allegri, but Allegri makes us play smarter and more "European" which helps us in the CL.

 

[lgorTudor]

Does anyone honestly think we would have beaten Dortmund with Conte? I have my doubts, I reckon we'd have lost that game and been susceptible all game to their counter attacks. Conte is a better coach than Allegri, but Allegri makes us play smarter and more "European" which helps us in the CL.

With Conte we wouldn't have made it out of group stage. Remember how we fapped over 4-3-1-2 against Olympiacos as Allegri showed a learning process? There is no such thing with Conte.
When it comes to motivation, tho, Conte is superior. With him we used to destroy all the small teams in Serie A at ease.

 

[Post Ironic]

With Conte we wouldn't have made it out of group stage. Remember how we fapped over 4-3-1-2 against Olympiacos as Allegri showed a learning process? There is no such thing with Conte.
When it comes to motivation, tho, Conte is superior. With him we used to destroy all the small teams in Serie A at ease.

That's because Conte only had one speed. Insane. He treated each game against each minnow in Serie A as though it were a title tilt. He treated matches against relegation strugglers the exact same as knockout matches in Europe. It caused the pressure to build too high, and our players always looked uncomfortable and shell-shocked in Europe whenever anything went the slightest bit off.

Allegri seems to understand that there is a difference between a CL match with Dortmund and a home tilt against Sassuolo or Parma. Our players look more at ease in Europe this year, and better able to handle the circumstance and pressure.

 

[lgorTudor]

That's because Conte only had one speed. Insane. He treated each game against each minnow in Serie A as though it were a title tilt. He treated matches against relegation strugglers the exact same as knockout matches in Europe. It caused the pressure to build too high, and our players always looked uncomfortable and shell-shocked in Europe whenever anything went the slightest bit off.

Allegri seems to understand that there is a difference between a CL match with Dortmund and a home tilt against Sassuolo or Parma. Our players look more at ease in Europe this year, and better able to handle the circumstance and pressure.

Good point. I remember after our defeat in Genoa Allegri justified his subs by explaining he had been settling for a draw and everybody went bazonkers over it. Like how he dares to not punch the team for a 3-0, we are Juventus and so on. It seems as Allegri actually differentiates between the importance of games. So I wonder why he wouldnt give our CM some rest in Palermo.

 

[Post Ironic]

Good point. I remember after our defeat in Genoa Allegri justified his subs by explaining he had been settling for a draw and everybody went bazonkers over it. Like how he dares to not punch the team for a 3-0, we are Juventus and so on. It seems as Allegri actually differentiates between the importance of games. So I wonder why he wouldnt give our CM some rest in Palermo.

I think part of this is the fact we're missing both Pirlo and Pogba already, and Sturaro is recovering from an injury. We don't know exactly who is playing quite yet, but I'm hoping somehow for Marchisio to get a rest, however unlikely.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

With Conte we wouldn't have made it out of group stage. Remember how we fapped over 4-3-1-2 against Olympiacos as Allegri showed a learning process? There is no such thing with Conte.
When it comes to motivation, tho, Conte is superior. With him we used to destroy all the small teams in Serie A at ease.

Oh yeah, no doubts about that in my mind. Conte is a superior man-manager. Players would run through brick walls for him (in b4 @Martin) and we performed quite a few comebacks as well in Serie A under his tenure. But he really didn't give us a whole lot of confidence before our CL games.

In terms of tactics, something happened to Conte in early 2012. I remember the first 6 months of the 11/12 season, he experimented with 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 and then he got the 3-5-2 stuck in his brain (which of course worked in Serie A, but wasn't suited to CL football) and would just refuse to budge and would rarely make any adjustments to it. I remember he used a 4-3-3 against Real Madrid and it worked great. Even though we didn't win either game against them, it was easily the best we played in Europe that season. He'd underrate and talk down about us constantly, and always blabbed on about the high-revenue clubs like Bayern, Barca, Madrid etc. He gave himself (and the team) an excuse to lose before a ball was even kicked in anger.

So far, Allegri hasn't done this once. So in that sense, I think Allegri is better than Conte to deal with European football, he tries to alter things in game tactically and shows a bit more balls to switch things up. It was refreshing to hear him say "we must be at minimum a top 8 team in Europe"

I just hope we manage to negotiate the Dortmund tie (which is going to be extremely difficult) then hope for an "easier" draw in the QF against Monaco or Porto, both whom would be quite beatable IMO.