Antonio Conte (106 Viewers)

[Hist]

Every player/coach can make his choices, but there is a timing and other factors for those, as I pointed out in the post you quoted. Just that. I never blamed any of the players that left in 2006 if you want to know, except those who talked $#@! about us after that (so, just Zambrotta and Thuram).

About the reason for Conte leaving, in the meantime you were writing Nedved has released an interview that confirmed my impressions. Check it out, perhaps.

If this is true then he did a guardiola on us and the board were aware he is going so the timing isnt as bad as initially thought. In this scenario, Conte tells the board early-on he doesnt want to continue.. they tell him to see how its like after the holidays.. he tells them he is too tired to properly perform and steps down. No reason for hate or anger either Its only a surprise to us.

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Italy's appointment is a good reason.

It would be a good reason if he had left earlier. Otherwise he'd be just dumping Juve.

 

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[KB824]

If this is true then he did a guardiola on us and the board were aware he is going so the timing isnt as bad as initially thought. In this scenario, Conte tells the board early-on he doesnt want to continue.. they tell him to see how its like after the holidays.. he tells them he is too tired to properly perform and steps down. No reason for hate or anger either Its only a surprise to us.

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It would be a good reason if he had left earlier. Otherwise he'd be just dumping Juve.

Then if what you are saying is true, then no one should be to blame. Not Conte, Not Marotta, Not Agnelli. And all of us should doing what we as fans are supposed to be doing, and that is looking ahead, not looking back.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

If what Nedved is saying is true, that he wanted to leave in May, to be honest, they should have just let him walk away.


But what should he have done? Considering that he is under contract? What do you think he should have done? I don't know, see the contract out maybe?

And if during that time that he was on holiday, he knew in his heart that he didn't want to come back, then he could have told them earlier, before the preseason started. Did he just walk into training on Monday and say "Nah, I don't think so?".

And everyone here is making it seem as if he were working in the worst possible environment. Come on. He's the coach of the most successful team in Italy coming off of three straight Serie A titles and 3 Straight automatic CL qualifications.

And does the transfer season end tomorrow? Not as far as I know.

Ok they didn't get Sanchez. They were never going to. Arsenal paid 42.5 million and there was no way they were going to spend a significant portion of their budget one one player, and that one player not being a franchise player. They weren't going to allow Iturbe's agent to retain partial control of the player. Fine.

But it's July 18th, with 6 weeks still to go in the transfer campaign. 2 players that Conte knew full well were going to be here (Evra, Morata) at the time he made his comment about the transfer market 10 days ago are now on their way.


So then what is the reason for him leaving?


Was it for personal reasons, as intimated by both Nedved and Marotta? Then that's cool. I get that. But if what Nedved is saying is true, and Juve convinced him that he would have his energy to coach again after the holiday, and Conte gave his OK to it, then there had to have been some soul searching going on with Conte. And if that soul searching led him to not want to do this anymore with this club, he should have let them know earlier.

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If I wasn't being paid. If I was being verbally abused.

exactly which makes it more reasonable to think that 'something' happened after he came back. But regardless of all of that i have respect for the man for stepping down when his heart is not fully in it regardless of what led him there.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It could very well be the case considering how quickly Allegri was hired. They may have had him on standby since the alleged meeting

 

[KB824]

exactly which makes it more reasonable to think that 'something' happened after he came back. But regardless of all of that i have respect for the man for stepping down when his heart is not fully in it regardless of what led him there.

And I understand that. I wouldn't a coach who wasn't fully invested in what he is doing.


But the timing is just fucking awful, and quite frankly I am sick of all the finger pointing and assumptions being thrown around when nobody really knows anything.

 

[IliveForJuve]

I hope he doesn't take the Italy job. If he's actually tired then he should just take a break from football and coach another club when he's ready.

It'd be interesting to see what he can do with a different team. Forza Conte.

 

[jukazem]

But the timing is just fucking awful, and quite frankly I am sick of all the finger pointing and assumptions being thrown around when nobody really knows anything.

how's the timing awful? it's mid-July, the pre-season has barely started, none of the internationals have returned, more than a month till season starts, the transfer window just a quarter way through and the whole transfer budget still intact (only sales so far).

for comparison, Mourinho left Chelsea mid September in 2007 by mutual consent.

 

[IliveForJuve]

how's the timing awful? it's mid-July, the pre-season has barely started, none of the internationals have returned, more than a month till season starts, the transfer window still open and the whole transfer budget still intact.

for comparison, Mourinho left Chelsea mid September in 2007 by mutual consent.

The timing is awful because all the good coaches are already employed.

 

[KB824]

Maybe he just doesn't want to do it anymore.

Maybe he's tired of coaching in Italy, when he is coaching the most equally loved and hated club in the Peninsula.


Maybe he needs to recharge his batteries and coach somewhere else in Europe.


All these maybes, but I have two certainties. I love him deeply for what he has done as a player and coach, and I just hate what he has done



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how's the timing awful? it's mid-July, the pre-season has barely started, none of the internationals have returned, more than a month till season starts, the transfer window still open and the whole transfer budget still intact.

for comparison, Mourinho left Chelsea mid September in 2007 by mutual consent.

The roster was already in place. All the transfer work was done therefore the pieces were there. This is a big difference. Now you have to bring in a new coach, with different ideas, which means that the entire roster needs to be reevaluated, and not only do you have to worry about trying to obtain players that you may not have previously planned on, you also have to work on selling players that the new coach suddenly deems as surplus to requirements.

 

[Hist]

Then if what you are saying is true, then no one should be to blame. Not Conte, Not Marotta, Not Agnelli. And all of us should doing what we as fans are supposed to be doing, and that is looking ahead, not looking back.

Agreed

 

[IliveForJuve]

The roster was already in place. All the transfer work was done therefore the pieces were there. This is a big difference. Now you have to bring in a new coach, with different ideas, which means that the entire roster needs to be reevaluated, and not only do you have to worry about trying to obtain players that you may not have previously planned on, you also have to work on selling players that the new coach suddenly deems as surplus to requirements.

Not to mention that the number of coaches to choose from is (more) limited.

 

[KB824]

Agreed

Speaking of avatars, and I know we're not, but I'm going to see Queen + Adam Lambert tomorrow night.


And its Brian's 67th birthday tomorrow

 

[Hængebøffer]

Then if what you are saying is true, then no one should be to blame. Not Conte, Not Marotta, Not Agnelli. And all of us should doing what we as fans are supposed to be doing, and that is looking ahead, not looking back.

But people here said so many disgusting things about both Conte and the mgmt that they won't admit they were wrong. They just keep hating.

 

[Rollie]

Based on that Nedved quote, I'm just hoping that everything is alright with Conte and his family.

Really disappointed in his departure, I think he could have built something very special here. His work was great, but I still feel as though there were better things to come.

 

[Vlad]

But people here said so many disgusting things about both Conte and the mgmt that they won't admit they were wrong. They just keep hating.

Are you admitting that you were wrong?

 

[Hængebøffer]

Are you admitting that you were wrong?

When I said Marotta should be fired?-yes. This is an unfortunate situation where no one should be blamed. It's easy to be a monday nighter.
This still doesen't change my opinion on Allegri. It is a horrible choice from our mgmt.

 

[Vlad]

When I said Marotta should be fired?-yes. This is an unfortunate situation where no one should be blamed. It's easy to be a monday nighter.
This still doesen't change my opinion on Allegri. It is a horrible choice from our mgmt.

Not too many options out there, but he might turn out good in the end. We cant know just yet.

 

[Juventino★★★]

They are playing a strategy to not be blamed or hated, they are trying hard to calm the fan down. I don't think they gave the real reason yet. Conte was crazy passionate until the last minutes of the last season. And celebrated with the player like he was one of them.

 

[Hist]

Speaking of avatars, and I know we're not, but I'm going to see Queen + Adam Lambert tomorrow night.


And its Brian's 67th birthday tomorrow

you lucky bastard

 

[Cronios]

Conte s contract was ending this season, in may he has asked for a couple of players, so that he can change formation.
These are obviously the demands he made publically.
Marotta had in mind that Conte wanted a LB and a new Giaccherini, since last year to say the least.
He knew about Evra's contract situation and his choice wide was iturbe.
wanted was dissapointed by Marottas work too many times, but he gave him a chance to get those two players, so he expected to have those two players for the preseason training.
in order to accomodate the old and new players with the new system and make the fine technical adjustments before the season starts!
Iturbe claimed that there never was an official interest from Juve,
that means that Marottas 27 mil offer has failed to convince his manager and the later prefered Roma's 22mil offer.
Apparently some complications appeared with Evra's transfer as well.
The deadline was over, the simple things that Cote has demanded to stay was to improve our team, by allowing to have wings and Marotta has apparently failed to get the two players he asked.
Conte's agreement with the board that convinced him to stay fell and Conte instead of waiting to see Marotta trying to make find an Iturbe compromise, sign him and have him available to train, up untill the last transfer day, with a significant chance to fail again, has instead opted to cut the loses, part ways and allow Juve to find a new manager and follow a different path.
Better now, than in sept and because of that the board was anxious to fill the spot with any garbage they could find,
their disregard to the coaches influence is minimal and their adamant belief on Marotta, true!
Conte being a part of the old time Juve, under the leadership of the triade wanted smth more for Juve,
he wanted to save us from this mediocrity, at all costs.
He risked being fired, by putting the board to choose between him and Marotta.
The board did not hesitate. There were always coach talks, but never transfer director talks.
They made their choice they either did not appreciate their luck with Conte, or they are pleased with Marotta's mediocrity and expect nothing more, they believe that even smth low as Allegri could make us run for the title and they have no ambitions beyond that.
Maybe they know better, time will tell...