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Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
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You are not providing any rebuttal to the facts, stats or the press conference statement.
Press conference statements? :rofl: I've been around enough to actually know that this is not the best Juventus team ever.

Breaking records in a declining league is sugar coating to its max. Fair play to the boys, it's not their fault. They got their jobs to do and are doing it. You obviously wasn't around when Serie A was at its high. Fuck me there were some players around, Top managers etc.....damn I miss those days. :cry:
 

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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
This isn't the best Juventus in history. When you are beating up on opposition who are clearly inferior to you (like a kid in grade 12 destroying everyone in years 9 and 10), this isn't a true indication of your ability. Now, when we go and play with the big boys our age in Europe, and actually win a couple of CL titles, you can call this the best Juventus in history. Being dominant domestically (in a league that has seen far better days) doesn't equate to being the best Juventus of all time.

The Juventus of Lippi, and the one under Trappatoni were superior to the current version.
is anyone suggesting otherwise ?

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We are the only team to manage a season in Serie A unbeatan. We are the invincibles.

We are strolling to our third consecutive Scudetto - No other Juventus team since 1935 have managed to do this.
Not even the Juventus that won the CL in 85 or 96 can manage that.

We will surely break the 91 point mark set by Capello's Juventus, and most likely break the 97 points of Inter. That means
highest number of points since we adopted the 3 point system in Serie A history. 10 more points with 4 games for the 100 point mark.

We have second best defense in Serie A. Our defense cannot be that bad if we can have the second best defense in Serie A.
The great wall in BBC.

Tevez hasn't scored in Europe but , Tevez and Llorente is the best scoring partner in Serie A. They got 32 goals between them in Serie A.
The best there is in Serie A.

We have Arturo Vidal who says he is the best in his position, the future Ballon D'Or winner in Pogba and the Pirlo who brought Italy to WC.
We have the best midfield in the world surely on top of that razor tight defense and clinical attack.Some would argue that even Davids
cant get a place in this midfield.

We have the WC Buffon in goal. Best GK by miles.


Looking at all this statistics, records broken, and Conte beaming pride to be unbeatan, to get the third scudetto and the points record in Serie A,
surely we should be looking at a minumum top 4 in CL every season and have every right to think we can win it. This is the best Juventus in history and Conte will testify to it.
Sorry to inform you but both CL winning juventus teams would make our current team look like sassulo.

And 1998 juve would smash it like barcelona smashes relegation teams in spain (well, a few months ago)
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
Sorry to inform you but both CL winning juventus teams would make our current team look like sassulo.

And 1998 juve would smash it like barcelona smashes relegation teams in spain (well, a few months ago)
The 96-99 Juve was simply amazing, and was superior to the current one, I agree. But don't make it out to be these huge gaps between the two Juve sides. It's true that this Juve side isn't the best ever, but it's not really that far off either. "...look like Sassuolo", "smash it" is just way too much and it's totally undermining the greatness of this current Juve and the respect it deserves.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
This isn't the best Juventus in history. When you are beating up on opposition who are clearly inferior to you (like a kid in grade 12 destroying everyone in years 9 and 10), this isn't a true indication of your ability. Now, when we go and play with the big boys our age in Europe, and actually win a couple of CL titles, you can call this the best Juventus in history. Being dominant domestically (in a league that has seen far better days) doesn't equate to being the best Juventus of all time.

The Juventus of Lippi, and the one under Trappatoni were superior to the current version.
Apart from the fact that we lost 2 of 3 finals under Lippi.Against Real and back in 2003 against Milan(that defeat still hurts me).And the squad was better than this one.
So apart that I value Lippi utmost as a coach and as a person he lost two CL finals.I dont say that Conte will win.Maybe he will lost all three but I am just pointing out that we lost too many finals(2 0f 3) under Lippi.

According to late reports Conte wants confirmation about transfer market strategy from our directors before he opens negotiations for extending his contract with us.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The 96-99 Juve was simply amazing, and was superior to the current one, I agree. But don't make it out to be these huge gaps between the two Juve sides. It's true that this Juve side isn't the best ever, but it's not really that far off either. "...look like Sassuolo", "smash it" is just way too much and it's totally undermining the greatness of this current Juve and the respect it deserves.
96-99 and 83-85 juve were incredible generations. I'm quite certain they would actually do that.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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obviously Lippi's Juve of the 90's was the best ever Juve so far. I mean the team that reaches almost 4 CL finals in a row is of truly extraordinary strength.
 

Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
Juventino[RUS];4514718 said:
What's wrong with your memory?! We've scored in boths games against each opponent for 2 seasons in a row in CL, except snow party in Turkey, and it's only because UEFA is nothing but dirty pigs who doesn't follow their own rules, that's why we failed to go to the playoffs in this season, circumstances were against us
Right, so that last match is the reason why we didn't go through. :rofl:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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Juventino[RUS];4514723 said:
we've been poor in the defence in the 1st part of the season and only after disaster in florence we've played bunch of clean sheet games
In my opinion we were poor in defence because we were over cautious in our approach. I see it that way, the coach scared the shit out of the players on how important it is to defend and not concede, to be more cautious than adventurous, to sit back rather than press, etc. and all this makes the players more nervous and more prone to mistakes.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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In my opinion we were poor in defence because we were over cautious in our approach. I see it that way, the coach scared the shit out of the players on how important it is to defend and not concede, to be more cautious than adventurous, to sit back rather than press, etc. and all this makes the players more nervous and more prone to mistakes.
Plus Our defenders started to play much higher in this season, that's why thy struggled in the beginning

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Right, so that last match is the reason why we didn't go through. :rofl:
Yes, saray had zero chance against us
 

Mister

Senior Member
Apr 4, 2014
5,742
We started in poor right from the pre-season phase in usa , drew with everton and inter , lost to galaxy , llorente was just not upto it he dint even get starts right after ....and that form continued over till we got a kick on our backside by loosing to fio 4-2 , the sad part is by then we had already played 3 cl matches drawing 1-1 with copenhagen(a) , 2-2 with gala (h) and 2-1 loss to madrid (a) , we had 2 points from 3 games even though we played well in all 3 games . Individual mistakes and a slow start to the season contributed to our elimination .
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
We need a new Alessandro Del Piero and Nedved and we are set. :numnum:
:disagree: It is all about Zidane. Platini and Zidane were the main reason we were so successful in Europe. After that epic 99 failure (2-0 up at home against those fags from Manchester; fucking hate those red scum), we only ever reached the final once, in 2003.

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We started in poor right from the pre-season phase in usa , drew with everton and inter , lost to galaxy , llorente was just not upto it he dint even get starts right after ....and that form continued over till we got a kick on our backside by loosing to fio 4-2 , the sad part is by then we had already played 3 cl matches drawing 1-1 with copenhagen(a) , 2-2 with gala (h) and 2-1 loss to madrid (a) , we had 2 points from 3 games even though we played well in all 3 games . Individual mistakes and a slow start to the season contributed to our elimination .
:shifty: Not this shit again :rolleyes:

Why can't we just say that we simply weren't good enough. Reflect inwards, instead of trying to find fault, and lay blame on circumstance. That was only part of the reason.
 

Mister

Senior Member
Apr 4, 2014
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:disagree: It is all about Zidane. Platini and Zidane were the main reason we were so successful in Europe. After that epic 99 failure (2-0 up at home against those fags from Manchester; $#@!ing hate those red s$#@!), we only ever reached the final once, in 2003.

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:shifty: Not this $#@! again :rolleyes:

Why can't we just say that we simply weren't good enough. Reflect inwards, instead of trying to find fault, and lay blame on circumstance. That was only part of the reason.
So what does "Individual mistakes and a slow start to the season contributed to our elimination" mean ? . Is not reflecting inwards taking blame that players not at upto it , the team wasnt running at 100% .Im not blaming the pitch the refree the crowd etc , the team at that time was underperforming how simple is it to comprehend that ? or u just think this time is shitty and not capable of anything ? even roma was on top of the league at that time .
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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:disagree: It is all about Zidane. Platini and Zidane were the main reason we were so successful in Europe. After that epic 99 failure (2-0 up at home against those fags from Manchester; fucking hate those red scum), we only ever reached the final once, in 2003.

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:shifty: Not this shit again :rolleyes:

Why can't we just say that we simply weren't good enough. Reflect inwards, instead of trying to find fault, and lay blame on circumstance. That was only part of the reason.
Del Piero was more important in then Juve team. Entire season without him proved how vital he was for our success. Dont forget how we squized our way through the group stages, while only a year before the likes of Rosenborg or Galata would get trashed, and of course the luck we had with the draw, getting the easiest opponent.
 

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