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How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,112
Italian coaches are all the same. They always revert back to what they know; what they learned as students of the game from when their football was the most successful. They are devoid of new ideas, unable to adapt to the new game, and are essentially useless once a sufficient amount of time has expired. Or in other words, one could say that the limit of Italian coaches always approaches defensive stagnant football.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Why are you blind and stubborn as $#@!? No one is criticizing the results, but the pathetic performances.

We were extremely fortunate against Torino (offside goal), Chievo (legit goal chalked off for them), Inter, and Gala.

The only game in which we were convincing was the one against Lazio. We laboured against Sampdoria, and risked losing both games against Inter and Gala with our apathetic performance. We conceded first in 5 of our 9 official games so far this season.

We lack pace, creativity, ingenuity, and are generally very sloppy and lacking in focus.
Posts like this can be conceived as borderline suicidal by certain retards on this forum.
you peasants just dont understand tactics.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
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We used to pass the ball around smartly, we used to press and leave little space for the opponents to operate, we used to create dangerous opportunities and blamed our bad forwards for the misses. We have good forwards now but we don't serve them the way we used to serve our forwards from the past two seasons. Our midfielders used to make lateral runs splitting defences apart, we rarely relied on long balls, we know that we have Bonucci to serve good forward balls but only used him when Pirlo was suffocated and our passing game not providing opportunities. If you want to ignore that this season all this is missing then be my guest but that only makes you blind.
First of all, let's cut the bullshit. We don't play 3 5 2. We play 5 3 2. Our wingers are a far cry away from being called anything close to attacking. We don't commit enough men forward and our game plan makes no sense given the type of players wet have. The reason we played that formation the last few years was mainly because our defense was so much Better than our attack. This isn't the case anymore. We can afford to field more strikers and not lose much quality. I don't get why conte refuses to acknowledge this. And let's not kid ourselves, it's not just the formation. We've lost a lot of that hunger that drove us to over perform. We're now consistently under performing. I don't know if it's because of Tevez, or lack of hunger, but I Do know that conte has a lot of work to do. I how he realizes that he needs to shake things up majorly because at this pace, we're going to be the joke of the season.
Why are you blind and stubborn as fuck? No one is criticizing the results, but the pathetic performances.

We were extremely fortunate against Torino (offside goal), Chievo (legit goal chalked off for them), Inter, and Gala.

The only game in which we were convincing was the one against Lazio. We laboured against Sampdoria, and risked losing both games against Inter and Gala with our apathetic performance. We conceded first in 5 of our 9 official games so far this season.

We lack pace, creativity, ingenuity, and are generally very sloppy and lacking in focus.
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anyone who says this isn't true is a retard
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
We used to pass the ball around smartly, we used to press and leave little space for the opponents to operate, we used to create dangerous opportunities and blamed our bad forwards for the misses. We have good forwards now but we don't serve them the way we used to serve our forwards from the past two seasons. Our midfielders used to make lateral runs splitting defences apart, we rarely relied on long balls, we know that we have Bonucci to serve good forward balls but only used him when Pirlo was suffocated and our passing game not providing opportunities. If you want to ignore that this season all this is missing then be my guest but that only makes you blind.
+rep. That's I want to see from this team.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Conte tries to carefully approach the game, giving nothing away. I like that. Usually he studies the opponent and then adjust for second half.
Can you explain a bit? Cos I don't really get why would anyone study so hard and only adjust it for second half? Element of surprise? :D
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
Conte tries to carefully approach the game, giving nothing away. I like that. Usually he studies the opponent and then adjust for second half.
You can still give nothing away if you were to press your opponents. Best form of defense is attack. Make the opposition think. Instead we're inviting our opponents with our lazy pressing style.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,883
We have 100% winning record when we most recently used 4-3-3.
Same for the 3-5-1-1.

Let's make it happen!


So do you think that the long balls that we are using at the beginning of every game is something we have been using the past two seasons? And the little press that we are putting is also something we are used to? In other words, are you telling me that the only difference this season is from the previous seasons is that we are gifting the opponents opportunities?
I agree with that, it is the approach that is annoying me most, we seem to be lethargic for longer periods and we wake up once things get complicated. And this approach has become a habit recently.
First of all, that's not what I was saying. My point is very simple: the way we are conceding goals has absolutely nothing to do with the formation we adopt. And if we did not concede these goals in the first place, it's an entirely different situation.

As for our current "lethargic" playing style. This is a criticism I have been hearing on & off for more than a year now, ever since 3-5-2 became our standard formation.
Yes, we're currently going through a rough period. Just like we have had similar periods last season as well. You should remember that.

No one here is disputing that we can & should do better. But to think that all it takes is a simple change of formation, quite frankly, shows a basic lack of understanding of the game. (Not targeting anyone in particular here, it's the feeling I get when reading a lot of posts in this thread.)
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
We used to pass the ball around smartly, we used to press and leave little space for the opponents to operate, we used to create dangerous opportunities and blamed our bad forwards for the misses. We have good forwards now but we don't serve them the way we used to serve our forwards from the past two seasons. Our midfielders used to make lateral runs splitting defences apart, we rarely relied on long balls, we know that we have Bonucci to serve good forward balls but only used him when Pirlo was suffocated and our passing game not providing opportunities. If you want to ignore that this season all this is missing then be my guest but that only makes you blind.
I really don't understand why we stopped playing like this...
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,042
Well evidently that basic change of formation in the 2nd half was all we needed to instantly improve our play. We created more in those 20 minutes than in previous 70. Replacing defender with offensively more oriented player is bound to pose more threat for the opponent. Really basic stuff.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
Same for the 3-5-1-1.

Let's make it happen!






First of all, that's not what I was saying. My point is very simple: the way we are conceding goals has absolutely nothing to do with the formation we adopt. And if we did not concede these goals in the first place, it's an entirely different situation.

As for our current "lethargic" playing style. This is a criticism I have been hearing on & off for more than a year now, ever since 3-5-2 became our standard formation.
Yes, we're currently going through a rough period. Just like we have had similar periods last season as well. You should remember that.

No one here is disputing that we can & should do better. But to think that all it takes is a simple change of formation, quite frankly, shows a basic lack of understanding of the game. (Not targeting anyone in particular here, it's the feeling I get when reading a lot of posts in this thread.)
And mind you, I have never ever suggested a change of formation. The only change that I have called for was removing Asamaoah from LWB position. I mostly complain about the lethargic approach. I know we go through rough periods and I know we did it last season, we started like that as well, we then saw it in January but I don't think we were as sloppy as we are now. We really look like the Capello days now, extremely lazy football up until we have to chase the result.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Can you explain a bit? Cos I don't really get why would anyone study so hard and only adjust it for second half? Element of surprise? :D
Its based around a very rigid formation that is mostly starting to game to not concede any and try to create against the opponent from that standpoint.

Conte adjusts during the game, but notes where the weak points lie.

For the second half, he'll fire up the players and presses the weak spots.


Basically, the first half is considered a studyround

You can still give nothing away if you were to press your opponents. Best form of defense is attack. Make the opposition think. Instead we're inviting our opponents with our lazy pressing style.
I dont expect a fan of brazillian football to understand italian playstyle, as we counter yours 100%
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Its based around a very rigid formation that is mostly starting to game to not concede any and try to create against the opponent from that standpoint.

Conte adjusts during the game, but notes where the weak points lie.

For the second half, he'll fire up the players and presses the weak spots.


Basically, the first half is considered a studyround
Basicly he does nothing during the week, or he should not careto do anything through it, because we have the first 45 mins to see what our opponents are up to?

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I dont expect a fan of brazillian football to understand italian playstyle, as we counter yours 100%
Not to mention the previous comments about Contes tactics and preparations, you just talk bullcrap.
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
Its based around a very rigid formation that is mostly starting to game to not concede any and try to create against the opponent from that standpoint.

Conte adjusts during the game, but notes where the weak points lie.

For the second half, he'll fire up the players and presses the weak spots.


Basically, the first half is considered a studyround
:rofl:

So that's why we've sucked donkey balls for the 1st half of all our games recently... we're studying.
 

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