So we basically need teams to open up but not press us, sounds like a plan. 
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Antonio Conte (94 Viewers)
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We need to not play counterattacking football against weaker teams...
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Stop acting like a queen boy. I get this "out of context" thing every day here, on purpose. Whilst i misread your post. So there wasent really a need for you to act all this offended and attentioncraving.
And i will still partially disageee. Its indeed true the financial flex is far away. But its not needed with good management. just alot harder
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I would love to hear how :tongue:
Apart from scoring agains them, i dont really know a way to get a team that parked the bus for a point, to actually move their bus
And i will still partially disageee. Its indeed true the financial flex is far away. But its not needed with good management. just alot harder
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I would love to hear how :tongue:
Apart from scoring agains them, i dont really know a way to get a team that parked the bus for a point, to actually move their bus
The approach to the game should be changed, he is not supposed to move the bus but instead of shooting at the bus he should find a way to go behind it. This is done by a different approach to every game not the same thing every time. When you play the exact same way each and every time all the teams will learn where to park their bus. After a season and a half with the exact same formation and the exact same approach to each and every game we have become even more predictable than we already are. Maybe that's why Pirlo is being exposed more this season, maybe that's why Asamoah hardly delivers a usedful ball, maybe that's why we take millions of shots on goal but very very few are dangerous.
We don't have crossing fullbacks that are up to the standard needed. Peluso? He's good but he is so weak defensively, Isla? Please. De Ceglie? I don't know why do we even have him and actually let him play, let alone in a Champions League match. I will not mention Asamoah because he is not a full back and regardless of where he plays he is still not a full back. The only full back we have is Lichtsteiner and his crosses are not that good.
Then again, playing Llorente does not change the approach to our game, we are still fielding the same shape, the same key elements to opening up the game, the same way we position ourselves, the same speed we move the ball etc. The only difference is that we would cross and most probably fail at it.
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He does not only moan about it though, he has moaned about how hard it is to win the title every time he opened his mouth. I don't see Benitez saying it is hard to win the title neither does he say he is going to win. I don't see Mazzari saying how hard it is to win the Scudetto either. Etc. Only Conte is shitting his pants it seems.
Then again, playing Llorente does not change the approach to our game, we are still fielding the same shape, the same key elements to opening up the game, the same way we position ourselves, the same speed we move the ball etc. The only difference is that we would cross and most probably fail at it.
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He does not only moan about it though, he has moaned about how hard it is to win the title every time he opened his mouth. I don't see Benitez saying it is hard to win the title neither does he say he is going to win. I don't see Mazzari saying how hard it is to win the Scudetto either. Etc. Only Conte is shitting his pants it seems.
Now that is far, far to hard.
We are talking about a team that parks the bus here. So the entire idea is that we can sacrifice that awesomoah on the flank, and add a crosser like peluso.
With peluso and chiellini as backup, just counterattacks are not the biggest issue.
Isla, peluso, both adept crossers. if i would want a wingback that is closer to awesomoah qualitywise ? sure but damn hard to find. zoonigga was a good idea, but then trashtown rapists decided to jail him.
Isla ? promising, dont write off.
However even with lichtnazi and awesomoah, there is still pogby, vidal and cheesio. When the defensive winger is against the line pushing up, they can come to assist, and when he lays it back, they can cross it right in.
In the past, marchisio did that plenty on the right. When llorente scored his goal, vidal did. last time, pogby did it twice
its interesting, how to defend against ?
double up against the wingback and the assisting cm ? sure, then the cm lays it to pirlo/tevez who switches the play to the other side.
Keep doing that, see if they can keep up their marking
We are talking about a team that parks the bus here. So the entire idea is that we can sacrifice that awesomoah on the flank, and add a crosser like peluso.
With peluso and chiellini as backup, just counterattacks are not the biggest issue.
Isla, peluso, both adept crossers. if i would want a wingback that is closer to awesomoah qualitywise ? sure but damn hard to find. zoonigga was a good idea, but then trashtown rapists decided to jail him.
Isla ? promising, dont write off.
However even with lichtnazi and awesomoah, there is still pogby, vidal and cheesio. When the defensive winger is against the line pushing up, they can come to assist, and when he lays it back, they can cross it right in.
In the past, marchisio did that plenty on the right. When llorente scored his goal, vidal did. last time, pogby did it twice
its interesting, how to defend against ?
double up against the wingback and the assisting cm ? sure, then the cm lays it to pirlo/tevez who switches the play to the other side.
Keep doing that, see if they can keep up their marking
Awesomoah 
I know you like the guy but he's not that good.
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I don't think Conte is that scared of competition. To me it seems he's finding an alibi for eventual failure if not winning title can be labeled as such. In this way he somewhat takes pressure off the team and puts more pressure on opponents, but be sure he will do anything to win a game and that means change of system if needed. Conte is a winner.
I know you like the guy but he's not that good.
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I don't think Conte is that scared of competition. To me it seems he's finding an alibi for eventual failure if not winning title can be labeled as such. In this way he somewhat takes pressure off the team and puts more pressure on opponents, but be sure he will do anything to win a game and that means change of system if needed. Conte is a winner.
I think you're right. After all we're a team in a rebuilding phase still (in some way of course). What I mean is we're not Barca to dominate it for a long time without changes. That lack of changes makes it harder for us to win. Just like defenders learned how to defend against Asamoah the same thing is happening to whole Juve. We still win games that's right but make no mistake it's actually harder for us this season. We go down by one goal and then chase the result. Later we wonder why our players need so much rest while other teams barely ever change more than 3 players in their starting lineup.
Some people say Pirlo is not finished yet and yes that's right but we've been exposed and he's been too. Pirlo as a magnificent player works in specific circumstances and that's what Conte delivered. Now that most teams know how to play against us there are no more conditions for him to do his job. Most teams is Serie A mirror our formation which makes them worry little about our forwards as they're usually outnumbered and Pirlo has no space to do his job.
I think it's harder for us to win games this season and I don't think there's a single sane person who'd argue with that. I'm not calling for revolution but something new wouldn't hurt as it would make us less predictable. Conte's job is to find new ways of winning matches because moaning about 'buses' will do exactly the opposite he'd want to see. Every small team will try to upset us because none of those is expecting 3 points against us. One point is fine while winning is a gift. It's Juve who have to win those matches.
Some people say Pirlo is not finished yet and yes that's right but we've been exposed and he's been too. Pirlo as a magnificent player works in specific circumstances and that's what Conte delivered. Now that most teams know how to play against us there are no more conditions for him to do his job. Most teams is Serie A mirror our formation which makes them worry little about our forwards as they're usually outnumbered and Pirlo has no space to do his job.
I think it's harder for us to win games this season and I don't think there's a single sane person who'd argue with that. I'm not calling for revolution but something new wouldn't hurt as it would make us less predictable. Conte's job is to find new ways of winning matches because moaning about 'buses' will do exactly the opposite he'd want to see. Every small team will try to upset us because none of those is expecting 3 points against us. One point is fine while winning is a gift. It's Juve who have to win those matches.
Now that you mentioned Pirlo who is the key player to our game, the opponents press him and wait for that opportunity when we are totally exposed to hit us when we are most vulnerable. The fact that our wingbacks hardly deliver we often see the two other central midfielders pushing wide and forward to deliver balls leaving Pirlo with a distance. It's a pattern that is repeated quite often as it is the only way we use.