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KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Kulu is only 20. I think with him it's what it seemed in Jan: he'll be Berna replacement. You can't fit Kulu, new CM, new winger in one XI anyway.

I just don't think we're "sacrificing" a season for the sake of rebuild, that doesn't make sense from Juve's perspective and isn't necessary. Number of new players isn't that diff compared to other seasons, just that focus is on younger ones.

Major diff will be in the number of past expiry date players who'll leave.

I fail to understand how age is an issue with Kulusevski. How many players on this club right now should be starting over him?

Dybala, Ronaldo, and...............................


And I never said that we were sacrificing a season. Taking a step back doesn't mean sacrificing anything. It's all about tempering expectations to where we cannot assume that Serie A is a given, and quite frankly, CL success would not have been anywhere close to that if we maintained a similar path.
 

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Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Expect to see several write offs, or selling those players for pennies on the dollar. Which I couldn't care less about if it means bringing in young players with potential.

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I personally think that experience is overrated.

I'll take athleticism over experience every day of the week. And it's not as if there won't still be several veterans on the team.
You can't get give aging players their athleticism back, but you sure as hell can teach young players more easily than giving older players their physical attributes back.

I agree there. Youngsters with a point to prove vs older players regressing. No brainer.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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I fail to understand how age is an issue with Kulusevski. How many players on this club right now should be starting over him?

Dybala, Ronaldo, and...............................


And I never said that we were sacrificing a season. Taking a step back doesn't mean sacrificing anything. It's all about tempering expectations to where we cannot assume that Serie A is a given, and quite frankly, CL success would not have been anywhere close to that if we maintained a similar path.
I definitely disagree with the Serie A part. It should be absolutely made a given and 10 in a row should be a big objective. I see no reason why it shouldn't be even with rejuvenating the midfield. And if anything, team is going to improve.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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If you think of Kulu as starter, that makes it two new starting players needed and not three. @KB824
I think Kulu will start unless there is another unexpected signing up top. Rumors earlier of Chiesa, so I guess those two would compete but I doubt we go after him.

If we sign Zaniolo, then 4312 then I can see him behind the front 2 and Kulu would be benched.

Can't Kulu play as a CM too? Maybe there is a plan for that :boh:
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Germans still so butthurt :touched:

It'll probably last forever.
It's always great when world cup host gets a late elimination. So much drama. If Italy beat Argentina in 1990, Germany beat Italy in 2006 and Brazil beat Germany in 2014 those matches wouldn't have been this iconic.
 

amir3323

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Jul 31, 2014
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You can't get give aging players their athleticism back, but you sure as hell can teach young players more easily than giving older players their physical attributes back.

I agree there. Youngsters with a point to prove vs older players regressing. No brainer.
That's the challenge for this transfer window. Yes Sarri was a mistake and not the right fit. But the squad is also filled with 7-8 players who just aren't hungry anymore. They have won so many trophies and just don't have the motivation anymore. They just show up on game day and aimlessly run around and kick the ball around. I'm not worried about how much Juve will spend. Every summer this club is spending big despite the perception that club is somehow broke. Biggest concern is gutting the squad of those players and replacing them with hungry young talent.
 

rainhard

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May 5, 2004
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That's the challenge for this transfer window. Yes Sarri was a mistake and not the right fit. But the squad is also filled with 7-8 players who just aren't hungry anymore. They have won so many trophies and just don't have the motivation anymore. They just show up on game day and aimlessly run around and kick the ball around. I'm not worried about how much Juve will spend. Every summer this club is spending big despite the perception that club is somehow broke. Biggest concern is gutting the squad of those players and replacing them with hungry young talent.
This actually challenge for last year windows or when CR7 come
Getting young talent, hungry to prove himself that can added new dimension to our game
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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That's the challenge for this transfer window. Yes Sarri was a mistake and not the right fit. But the squad is also filled with 7-8 players who just aren't hungry anymore. They have won so many trophies and just don't have the motivation anymore. They just show up on game day and aimlessly run around and kick the ball around. I'm not worried about how much Juve will spend. Every summer this club is spending big despite the perception that club is somehow broke. Biggest concern is gutting the squad of those players and replacing them with hungry young talent.
Bonucci is the epitome of this. Complacent player with a lackadaisical attitude. i hope we sell him.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I fail to understand how age is an issue with Kulusevski. How many players on this club right now should be starting over him?

Dybala, Ronaldo, and...............................


And I never said that we were sacrificing a season. Taking a step back doesn't mean sacrificing anything. It's all about tempering expectations to where we cannot assume that Serie A is a given, and quite frankly, CL success would not have been anywhere close to that if we maintained a similar path.
Who cares about age anymore anyway. We were just beat by a team of young players or nobodies. Half the squad is utter dogshit, mostly players in their prime or older. Who cares? Give Tonali the 21 and plop his ass in front of the defense every match, it can’t get worse than playing fucking Khedira and Bernardski.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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If you think of Kulu as starter, that makes it two new starting players needed and not three. @KB824

I also think that Arthur and Demiral should be starters.

A new RB and a new winger, preferably on the young side (Unless we get someone like Aouar for the midfield instead of another winger), and we are off to a really, really good start to rejuvenating this squad.
 
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Managerial experience is important, especially for coaches who didn't play at the top level.
But what about the experience you get while playing under top top managers? Our 96-97 teams have produced a ton of coaches, and they all attribute playing under Lippi as a huge contributor to their success. Pirlo has played under Ancelotti, Trappatoni, Conte, Allegri and Lippi. I wouldn't have gone for Pirlo myself, it's a huge gamble, but he may not be as green as most people are making him out to be.
Interestingly there will be quite a few coaches from Ancelotti's Milan coaching in Serie A next season. Gattuso with Napoli, Pirlo with Juve, Pippo with Benevento and possibly even Nesta if Frosinone make it from the playoffs.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Well, he definitely got our attention with the Saturday Night Slaughter yesterday.

In any case, should next season fail, that season will be on Agnelli. This one on Tici & Nedved.
I want to believe that his move is calculated and that he knows the risks and is working on supporting Pirlo with what is needed to minimize those risks.
 

amir3323

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Jul 31, 2014
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Bonucci is the epitome of this. Complacent player with a lackadaisical attitude. i hope we sell him.
I see the same attitude in Rugani, Higuain, Bernardeschi, Matuidi, and Alex Sandro. Also in De Sciglio and Costa in the rare occasions when they are actually fit and available. The club better be working on gutting the squad of these players right now.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I definitely disagree with the Serie A part. It should be absolutely made a given and 10 in a row should be a big objective. I see no reason why it shouldn't be even with rejuvenating the midfield. And if anything, team is going to improve.

What I am saying is that we can't just assume we are going to walk away with it again. And maybe that is the stimulus that these kids would need. Would you rather be more comfortable with old players who have already been through this before, or younger guys who want to win? I'll take the latter every day of the week.
 

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