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Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Pirlo snaps back at Sky questions

Andrea Pirlo was irritable when his tactical choices in the Juventus draw with Verona were questioned. ‘You should watch games before commenting. You tell me what I’m supposed to do.’
Cristiano Ronaldo’s goal was cancelled out by an Antonin Barak header, although Hellas could’ve had more, as Wojciech Szczesny twice fingertipped efforts onto the woodwork.
When Pirlo faced questions from Sky Sport Italia pundit Giancarlo Padovan about using players out of position, the coach was in no mood for it.

“We were in an emergency situation, if you look at the absentees. I had already adapted Alex Sandro as a centre-back, so we couldn’t invent more than that.
“If you are missing four defenders, full-backs and strikers, then you tell me what I’m supposed to do.”
Pirlo was asked if he could’ve adopted a four-man defence with Radu Dragusin instead of forcing Juve to stick with three.
“Dragusin is not a full-back and he has never played as a full-back, he is a third centre-back. You should watch games carefully before commenting.”
Padovan assured he had watched them carefully.
“It doesn’t seem like you did. Dragusin was never tested there.”
The line of questioning moved on to Federico Bernardeschi and Federico Chiesa being ‘out of position’ in order to use the 3-4-2-1 formation.
Excuse me, but who would you have placed in that formation? Chiesa is an attacking winger, he played many games in that role. Bernardeschi has almost always played in that role.
Perhaps they were the only two players there who were in their natural roles. When you have to make changes, everyone needs to adapt.”

:)
He hasn't any clue what he's doing. He is adapting players instead of adapting formations based on the players available at his disposal.
This is straight from Pep's handbook.
Getting aggressive really proves that he's lost. No one gives a shit who was available, Verona will still have a worse team than you... it's no excuse.
 

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Hydde

Duke NUKEM
Mar 6, 2003
37,537
I know patience is not existing in today world but how many years it took Klopp to win the champions league and the league with the amount of money he spent we are making knee jerk reactions every season we will keep on changing managers every season last season it was sarri this year it will be Pirlo next season it will be somebody else
The difference is that
1- Kloop plays in a way superior league
2- We are the supposed big fish in a small pond with CR7 in our lines so theres no way we should have lost the scudetto, not like this.
3- At least klopp was a real pro coach when he got hired and already had a good CV behind him....we on the toher hand signed a total rookie just because he was pal of the president and did a cute thesis in microsfot word.
4- NO one is talking about winning the CL, Juventus and winning the CL is something you simply dont wish because it is impossible. But winning the scudetto with better personel than Sarri had was TOTALLY possible, yet The management and Pirlo blew it incredibly.

Dark years coming
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
62,597
It's a very much valid excuse imo can't stand Pirlo the coach who i see as completely out of his depth, but seeing how many people were missing his point stands, also to the people saying just play a different formation, this is not FM, if we look so disorganized in our main formations, i really don't want to see what we would look like in a brand new hardly practiced one.
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
57,290
It's a very much valid excuse imo can't stand Pirlo the coach who i see as completely out of his depth, but seeing how many people were missing his point stands, also to the people saying just play a different formation, this is not FM, if we look so disorganized in our main formations, i really don't want to see what we would look like in a brand new hardly practiced one.
Ive never seen so many players that are happy with doing the bare minimum. Our midfield is so fucked.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
11,822
Ive never seen so many players that are happy with doing the bare minimum. Our midfield is so fucked.
I watched that goal about 4/5 times now in ultra slow motion. Ignoring the fact Demiral probably should have closed down and got a block on the cross within his own box (no excuse of being a RB here), it should have never gone that far anyway. Bentancur puts in a such a wet challenge to win the ball from Veloso and then a statuesque Rabiot gets beaten by the pass far too easily. Neither of them had made a gut busting run prior to this either and the person who actually ends up trackIng back into the box after all this this is Ronaldo... What a farce.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
62,597
Ive never seen so many players that are happy with doing the bare minimum. Our midfield is so fucked.
That was obvious from about our 3rd or 4th game. But every game ought to be analysed individually, we were ahead till about the last 10 minutes, that's usually when fatigue sets in, that's why verona made 5 subs before we could make our 2nd. That's why they were able to press so relentlessly. I think with a loaded squad we would have cruised to an ugly win.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
49,402
The moment Pirlo said 'players were not focused because it's Christmas' after the loss to Fiorentina, that was the moment I realized he's not the profile a club like ours should be looking at.

His casual demeanor is almost a reflection on the entire team. Lazy and casual but don't have enough talent to compensate for it.
And some people were happy about it. A coach who doesn't lose his cool :baus:

I'd always take a screaming, bottle kicking and jacket throwing manager over a lethargic one like Pirlo.
Pirlo snaps back at Sky questions

Andrea Pirlo was irritable when his tactical choices in the Juventus draw with Verona were questioned. ‘You should watch games before commenting. You tell me what I’m supposed to do.’
Cristiano Ronaldo’s goal was cancelled out by an Antonin Barak header, although Hellas could’ve had more, as Wojciech Szczesny twice fingertipped efforts onto the woodwork.
When Pirlo faced questions from Sky Sport Italia pundit Giancarlo Padovan about using players out of position, the coach was in no mood for it.

“We were in an emergency situation, if you look at the absentees. I had already adapted Alex Sandro as a centre-back, so we couldn’t invent more than that.
“If you are missing four defenders, full-backs and strikers, then you tell me what I’m supposed to do.”
Pirlo was asked if he could’ve adopted a four-man defence with Radu Dragusin instead of forcing Juve to stick with three.
“Dragusin is not a full-back and he has never played as a full-back, he is a third centre-back. You should watch games carefully before commenting.”
Padovan assured he had watched them carefully.
“It doesn’t seem like you did. Dragusin was never tested there.”
The line of questioning moved on to Federico Bernardeschi and Federico Chiesa being ‘out of position’ in order to use the 3-4-2-1 formation.
Excuse me, but who would you have placed in that formation? Chiesa is an attacking winger, he played many games in that role. Bernardeschi has almost always played in that role.
Perhaps they were the only two players there who were in their natural roles. When you have to make changes, everyone needs to adapt.”

:)
He hasn't any clue what he's doing. He is adapting players instead of adapting formations based on the players available at his disposal.
This is straight from Pep's handbook.
Just sack him already.
 
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Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
57,290
That was obvious from about our 3rd or 4th game. But every game ought to be analysed individually, we were ahead till about the last 10 minutes, that's usually when fatigue sets in, that's why verona made 5 subs before we could make our 2nd. That's why they were able to press so relentlessly. I think with a loaded squad we would have cruised to an ugly win.
Yep. Characterless.

I would've put some of the kids in, no point in leaving a statue like Rabiot in.
I watched that goal about 4/5 times now in ultra slow motion. Ignoring the fact Demiral probably should have closed down and got a block on the cross within his own box (no excuse of being a RB here), it should have never gone that far anyway. Bentancur puts in a such a wet challenge to win the ball from Veloso and then a statuesque Rabiot gets beaten by the pass far too easily. Neither of them had made a gut busting run prior to this either and the person who actually ends up trackIng back into the box after all this this is Ronaldo... What a farce.
Bentancur always does that shit, lazy player, all of that fire he used to have is gone.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
57,290
There is no grinta anymore, thats what happens when you fill the team with mercenaries. This is what happens when you think your team is better than it is and you fill it with mediocre overpaid players that have never showed even an ounce of fight in their careers. You're completely fucked when you have to rely on Sandro for character and grinta
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
623
Man I was wrong about Pirlo big time, he doesn't need more time..he is unbelievably bad..even if he stays for ten years I don't think he will change much because be has no sense at all. This guy has zero skills to guide the team during a match. Every one of our "league best" 20 conceded goals has come at a shitty time.. it means poor matchtime management. A draw with verona from a goal up? needs to go start by coaching verona.
 

Hydde

Duke NUKEM
Mar 6, 2003
37,537
Man I was wrong about Pirlo big time, he doesn't need more time..he is unbelievably bad..even if he stays for ten years I don't think he will change much because be has no sense at all. This guy has zero skills to guide the team during a match. Every one of our "league best" 20 conceded goals has come at a shitty time.. it means poor matchtime management. A draw with verona from a goal up? needs to go start by coaching verona.
Thats exactly why i dont buy that excuse some peeople say (not here in this forum anymore)...that we need to give him time and a "proper midfield" for him to show his ideas....FUCK HIS IDEAS.... what ideas? the guy is a total rookie who doesnt have any idea on how to man manage a team, let alone manage the tactical side of things which require actual years of experiencing wins and defeats.

Fuk this mockery- Agnelli really needs to explain this situation to Elkann and i really hope he gets his share of the pie too, because it was AGNELLI who ultimately approved this madness...........Agnelli of all guys, the supposedly savy business man which im sure would not hire a high school graduate to run his millionarie busiensses

he should give answers
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
1,853
The circumstances are tough, but this was a must win game due to the shitload of points we dropped in much easier times. I guess we have to start thinking about Top4 now.. Thank you Pirlo for handing the Scudetto to Inter, great job
 

Vlad

Senior Member
May 23, 2011
19,757
Ideally Agnelli would have gotten down on his knees and begged Allegri to return last summer. Then we should have done a bit of cleaning, players like Rabiot have no business being here. Id say farewell to Ramsey as well. Bentacur can only remain as a backup. We needed a new midfield, a better synergy, players who would complement one another. To finance midfield, we could have sacrificed Dybala who had played a good season and considering we brought Chiesa, we dont lack talent in attacking dept. Dreams...

Reality is we will be stuck with Pirlo regardless of CL result as long as we secure top 4 finish. I dont even want to contemplate too much how it would reflect on us, if we miss out on CL. Financial disaster, we would be set back by few years.

I can only hope come the summer Rabiot, Ramsey, Berna will be plying their trade elsewhere and we rebuild properly, focusing on midfield, and that we reduce our wage bill. Its not sustainable atm.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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What a horrible tactical display!

We didn’t had a midfield at all, none of our midfielders were in the position they supposed to be when we had possession.

There’s just a huge gap between our defense and attack when we start the build up. It’s always the same, Ramsey/McKennie are supposed to join the attack which make us losing one of the 3 midfielders. Bentancur stays behind and the third one, I didn’t even know where the hell Rabiot was, my screen was to small to see him hiding somewhere.

I was very much pro-Pirlo, understanding the problems we faced during the start and I had patience, but this are unforgivable mistakes, he didn’t had a clue what he was doing.

Im also really annoyed that he’s so fake in his ideas to implement the youngsters. I’m quite sure that Correia and Fagioli would’ve done a lot better compared to Bernardeschi an Ramsey. What a awful, awful players that are. Should never wear our jersey again.

And why the hell is this guy against a 433 ffs.

In order to save the season Agnelli should intervene and find something else. The 4th place is at risk
 

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