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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Allegri inherited a well oiled and organised machine from Conte, kept the same setup for a while until he gradually changed it because he had the.luxury of more time.. sarri then inherited a well organised team during a normal season and managed to keep it up somehow with individual brilliance from our players and with the bilan teams not quite firing on all cylinders yet..sarri did zero beside let the team slip
Pirlo inherited a team with no identity from a man with no clue, stubborn in his ways..and during a pandemic..Pirlo didn't inherit shit but a lot of work.
That's still no excuse to persist with alpha shit bernadeschi
 

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Mar 10, 2009
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Allegri inherited a well oiled and organised machine from Conte, kept the same setup for a while until he gradually changed it because he had the.luxury of more time.. sarri then inherited a well organised team during a normal season and managed to keep it up somehow with individual brilliance from our players and with the bilan teams not quite firing on all cylinders yet..sarri did zero beside let the team slip
Pirlo inherited a team with no identity from a man with no clue, stubborn in his ways..and during a pandemic..Pirlo didn't inherit shit but a lot of work.
As bad as Sarri was and still is, Pirlo inherited a team that won the league.
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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We are still paying for a complete lack of preparation, this latest loss in isolation isn't an issue. We would chalk this down as one of those nights where we could've scored 3 but it didn't happen. We just lost too points early on because we were figuring things out. Ever since the Inter loss we've had a good run, we will be inconsistent all year because of what we are doing. This is the transition year, if we (Pirlo included) keep improving we will be in a great spot next year I think.

You make no sense man you are tripping, don't you know Pirlo has a ps5 controller in his hand with cheats codes and that he can just go to manage my team screen and make things perfect as soon as he took over from sarri? It's simple.
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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As bad as Sarri was and still is, Pirlo inherited a team that won the league.
Sarri finished 26-5-7 we are now 12-6-3 which is literally a %10 (5-6 point ) difference, and with a dozen easier matches coming up and the team gaining some traction, Pirlo will catch up if not surpass sarri...now whether we will win the league is a different discussion and that discussion is how much better are our opponents this year? that 5-6 points which we fell behind and our form in general is to be expected and I would even expect a slow start from pep if he were hired.
..sarri inherited an organised machine and barely won the league by 1 point from Merda and 5 from atalanta and lazio these were the mighty opponents he overcame in a normal season with twice as much time..he was fuking shit up with no pandemic with best player in his roster so that's "experience" for you. Can't judge Pirlo specially not until the end.
 
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pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Ramsey on a good day can make some runs forward but is by no means a ball distributor neither is Bent nor mckenie..that's the prob, making runs is what we do mostly we don't have a player with passing range to exploit open space even if bonucci plays (his quality is not the same and even if it was he is not enough) Pirlo used to play deep in front of BBC and take advantage of the freedom they provided to pick out advancing teammates and be like a connecting hub but maybe it's too much to ask of Artur.
It's a swastika on an Armenian temple wall with zero made up stories, unlike real history.
I thought swastika was just a hindu thing. Good to know.
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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I thought swastika was just a hindu thing. Good to know.
No it's not exclusively Indian, other ancient people's have used it I know my people the Armenians used it at least until we officially accepted christianity in 333AD (first nation in the world to do so) and in Armenian text there is evidence of its use up to at least 3000BC during zoroastrianism.
WHen the powers that be decided to "tame" the Romans and the Greeks and the Armenians by introducing christianity ("if they slap you, turn the other cheek") alot of ancient culture and symbols died and got erased on purpose and the swastika origin story is one of them. The ancient burned down library of Alexandria was probably the last keeper of the truth.. Anyway sorry for the rant and no disrespect to any christians but it's the sad truth.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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As bad as Sarri was and still is, Pirlo inherited a team that won the league.
Very simplistic way to look at it.
This is the kind of attitude that made United, Milan and Inter slump to disastrous lows after being the best teams in Europe. And you’re likely seeing it with Liverpool too.
Wewere stuck between a rock and a hard place- going all in for the CL with Ronaldo wouldn’t work because our team wasn’t that great. So we had to rejuvenate our team, likely costing us trophies in the immediate future.
We might lose out on the scudetto this year because we hired at a rookie coach, but looking at how good Pirlo is at learning from his mistakes, his man management, tactical flexibility and his embodiment of Lo Stile Juve, I am convinced we will keep improving with him.

Long story short, you can’t just look at it from the perspective of one season, you have to look at the big picture.
 

Karim30

Allegri is back, life is back.
May 6, 2012
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Very simplistic way to look at it.
This is the kind of attitude that made United, Milan and Inter slump to disastrous lows after being the best teams in Europe. And you’re likely seeing it with Liverpool too.
Wewere stuck between a rock and a hard place- going all in for the CL with Ronaldo wouldn’t work because our team wasn’t that great. So we had to rejuvenate our team, likely costing us trophies in the immediate future.
We might lose out on the scudetto this year because we hired at a rookie coach, but looking at how good Pirlo is at learning from his mistakes, his man management, tactical flexibility and his embodiment of Lo Stile Juve, I am convinced we will keep improving with him.

Long story short, you can’t just look at it from the perspective of one season, you have to look at the big picture.
I was laughed at here when I said that I don't expect him to win the league. I was pessimistic about him at first but he grew on me and I believe that he's a good hire for us.
I still believe in our chances this season to win the league because our rivals are weaker than I expected (inter), but we need to get luckier with injuries and we can have a good run the next 8 matches.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
No it's not exclusively Indian, other ancient people's have used it I know my people the Armenians used it at least until we officially accepted christianity in 333AD (first nation in the world to do so) and in Armenian text there is evidence of its use up to at least 3000BC during zoroastrianism.
WHen the powers that be decided to "tame" the Romans and the Greeks and the Armenians by introducing christianity ("if they slap you, turn the other cheek") alot of ancient culture and symbols died and got erased on purpose and the swastika origin story is one of them. The ancient burned down library of Alexandria was probably the last keeper of the truth.. Anyway sorry for the rant and no disrespect to any christians but it's the sad truth.
It's interesting how many things ancient religions share, and some were borrowed by new religions too, Dec 25 and flood e.g.

- - - Updated - - -

And fasting. Interestingly, Muslims are the only ones who do it wrong (water fast)
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Very simplistic way to look at it.
This is the kind of attitude that made United, Milan and Inter slump to disastrous lows after being the best teams in Europe. And you’re likely seeing it with Liverpool too.
Wewere stuck between a rock and a hard place- going all in for the CL with Ronaldo wouldn’t work because our team wasn’t that great. So we had to rejuvenate our team, likely costing us trophies in the immediate future.
We might lose out on the scudetto this year because we hired at a rookie coach, but looking at how good Pirlo is at learning from his mistakes, his man management, tactical flexibility and his embodiment of Lo Stile Juve, I am convinced we will keep improving with him.

Long story short, you can’t just look at it from the perspective of one season, you have to look at the big picture.
:tup:

We can also see that we had an awful first few months of the season under Pirlo but have steadily looked better and better since then.

Last year was the exact opposite. We had a fantastic start, and then around December and the Lazio matches we hit and wall and got worse and worse for the remainder of the season.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,820
:tup:

We can also see that we had an awful first few months of the season under Pirlo but have steadily looked better and better since then.

Last year was the exact opposite. We had a fantastic start, and then around December and the Lazio matches we hit and wall and got worse and worse for the remainder of the season.
A simplistic man would just say that Sarri succeeded at the start because of the Allegri effect, and Pirlo failed at the beginning because of the Sarri effect. I’m not that simplistic, but if I was.........
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
he really needs to figure out that chiellini is not the leader this team needs.

bonucci when fit should always play. teams passing drops hard when bonucci not there to organize defense
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,820
he really needs to figure out that chiellini is not the leader this team needs.

bonucci when fit should always play. teams passing drops hard when bonucci not there to organize defense
One penalty and people completely rewrite the history books lol. Chiellini was the biggest reason we didn’t concede in the league for nearly 500 mins before that pen.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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he really needs to figure out that chiellini is not the leader this team needs.

bonucci when fit should always play. teams passing drops hard when bonucci not there to organize defense
Bonucci (even with all the defensive errors) is pretty crucial to the team. There is a reason he starts when fit.

Bonucci and De Ligt is current ideal CB partnership from the available options because of their abilities on the ball
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
One penalty and people completely rewrite the history books lol. Chiellini was the biggest reason we didn’t concede in the league for nearly 500 mins before that pen.
i'm honestly not joking. defense is critical but midfield can't hold ball or pass forward and bonucci is important aspect in making sure team flows, depsite his defensive liabilites. chiellni trying to pass the ball forward and failing was big cringe
 

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