Andrea Pirlo (106 Viewers)

[Salvo]

We are still paying for a complete lack of preparation, this latest loss in isolation isn't an issue. We would chalk this down as one of those nights where we could've scored 3 but it didn't happen. We just lost too points early on because we were figuring things out. Ever since the Inter loss we've had a good run, we will be inconsistent all year because of what we are doing. This is the transition year, if we (Pirlo included) keep improving we will be in a great spot next year I think.

 

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[Ventus]

We are still paying for a complete lack of preparation, this latest loss in isolation isn't an issue. We would chalk this down as one of those nights where we could've scored 3 but it didn't happen. We just lost too points early on because we were figuring things out. Ever since the Inter loss we've had a good run, we will be inconsistent all year because of what we are doing. This is the transition year, if we (Pirlo included) keep improving we will be in a great spot next year I think.

Every team lacked preparation due to Covid. The fact Pirlo is a rookie coach with no experience and therefore 'needed more time' may excuse Pirlo's incapability to manage, but not the decision to hire him in the first place. On the contrary, the fact we hired a rookie coach during the Covid era makes it worse.

 

[Salvo]

Every team lacked preparation due to Covid. The fact Pirlo is a rookie coach with no experience and therefore 'needed more time' may excuse Pirlo's incapability to manage, but not the decision to hire him in the first place. On the contrary, the fact we hired a rookie coach during the Covid era makes it worse.

I'm not talking about the decision to hire him, that's done now. We had a massive overhaul in every sense so obviously it was going to take time. More than most teams.

 

[Elvin]

He is right that we deserved more from the game. Napoli had no intention of going forward this match, they parked the bus in a way teams like Benevento would. But penalty incident isnt dubious if we go by current rules. In some other era, this would have never been a penalty, just like Ashley Young's challenge on Cuadrado wouldnt have been called because the ball was out of reach since Bernadeschi completely messed up the cross. I dont recall him mentioning the incident then.

Yeah Napoli aint scoring if not for the gift.

 

[Robee]

I'm not talking about the decision to hire him, that's done now. We had a massive overhaul in every sense so obviously it was going to take time. More than most teams.

We made some changes yeah but our starting 11 only counts about 3 to 4 new names... It's not something we haven't done before.

Pirlo decided to throw out a lot of good things, wanted to play some kind of 'academic football' and it cost us dearly.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Every team lacked preparation due to Covid. The fact Pirlo is a rookie coach with no experience and therefore 'needed more time' may excuse Pirlo's incapability to manage, but not the decision to hire him in the first place. On the contrary, the fact we hired a rookie coach during the Covid era makes it worse.

This is not 100% true. Inter/Conte, Milan/Pioli, Napoli/Gattuso/ Roma/Fonseca, Atalanta/Gasperini, Lazio/Inzaghi; all of them had at least a year or more with their teams. So yea if you look to just preseason we all had a short one but the other teams are way more prepared and coaches had way more time to build. Besides that Pirlo inherited a ‘new’ squad with many new faces and young players, so it’s definitely a difficult package with the highest expectations of them all.

 

[DAiDEViL]

This is not 100% true. Inter/Conte, Milan/Pioli, Napoli/Gattuso/ Roma/Fonseca, Atalanta/Gasperini, Lazio/Inzaghi; all of them had at least a year or more with their teams. So yea if you look to just preseason we all had a short one but the other teams are way more prepared and coaches had way more time to build. Besides that Pirlo inherited a ‘new’ squad with many new faces and young players, so it’s definitely a difficult package with the highest expectations of them all.

His main mistake for me simply was that he tried to change too much in a short period of time, instead of slowly implementing his ideas - and that cost us way too many points.

 

[Orgut]

Until we start create like a top team I will continue to hope we could change coach
Id like Gasperini and if he can bring attacking style to Atalanta he can do well for us too

 

[U Picciriddu]

His main mistake for me simply was that he tried to change too much in a short period of time, instead of slowly implementing his ideas - and that cost us way too many points.

Yes I agree he was pretty naive with that

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Trust me You don't need a season to realise that bernadeschi is shit and has no place in this team

 

[Ventus]

This is not 100% true. Inter/Conte, Milan/Pioli, Napoli/Gattuso/ Roma/Fonseca, Atalanta/Gasperini, Lazio/Inzaghi; all of them had at least a year or more with their teams. So yea if you look to just preseason we all had a short one but the other teams are way more prepared and coaches had way more time to build. Besides that Pirlo inherited a ‘new’ squad with many new faces and young players, so it’s definitely a difficult package with the highest expectations of them all.

Which is all the more reason not to hire a rookie coach in the first place. Also, Pirlo inherited a team that won the scudetto for the last 9 years...

 

[JuveE46]

Our mid needs healthy arthur and wes and then have to hope one of ben10 and ramsey has a good day. Mid will be inconsistent with arthur out. With him out, i think bonucci's passing is required. Will make small diff from back. They looked like headless chickens today.

Add chiesa for counterattacks and even panita cuadra runs from deep.

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Ramsey on a good day can make some runs forward but is by no means a ball distributor neither is Bent nor mckenie..that's the prob, making runs is what we do mostly we don't have a player with passing range to exploit open space even if bonucci plays (his quality is not the same and even if it was he is not enough) Pirlo used to play deep in front of BBC and take advantage of the freedom they provided to pick out advancing teammates and be like a connecting hub but maybe it's too much to ask of Artur.
It's a swastika on an Armenian temple wall with zero made up stories, unlike real history.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Which is all the more reason not to hire a rookie coach in the first place. Also, Pirlo inherited a team that won the scudetto for the last 9 years...

Rookie Coach playing fucking noobs like bernadeschi

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Berna is third string, first two strings weren't 100% or not available

Issue wasn't starting Berna, issue is why he's still in the team

Here we have it.

 

[JuveE46]

Which is all the more reason not to hire a rookie coach in the first place. Also, Pirlo inherited a team that won the scudetto for the last 9 years...

Allegri inherited a well oiled and organised machine from Conte, kept the same setup for a while until he gradually changed it because he had the.luxury of more time.. sarri then inherited a well organised team during a normal season and managed to keep it up somehow with individual brilliance from our players and with the bilan teams not quite firing on all cylinders yet..sarri did zero beside let the team slip
Pirlo inherited a team with no identity from a man with no clue, stubborn in his ways..and during a pandemic..Pirlo didn't inherit shit but a lot of work.

 

[campionesidd]

Until we start create like a top team I will continue to hope we could change coach
Id like Gasperini and if he can bring attacking style to Atalanta he can do well for us too

Gasperini would fail here. His teams have no clue how to defend. We might beat Inter 4-0 with him, and lose 3-0 against Sassuolo in the following game.
He also issues with man management. I doubt he’d be able to take on egos like CR7, Bonucci and Dybala when he could barely cope with Papu Gomez.
Finally, at Atalanta, he has no pressure to win trophies so he had all the time in the world to implement his ideas.

 

[Lion]

Gasperini would fail here. His teams have no clue how to defend. We might beat Inter 4-0 with him, and lose 3-0 against Sassuolo in the following game.
He also issues with man management. I doubt he’d be able to take on egos like CR7, Bonucci and Dybala when he could barely cope with Papu Gomez.
Finally, at Atalanta, he has no pressure to win trophies so he had all the time in the world to implement his ideas.

good points. also gasperini is in his 5th season in atalanta. so he's had many seasons to drill his team to play how he wants.

would juve fans be willling to wait a season or 2 to play like atalanta?

 

[Orgut]

Gasperini would fail here. His teams have no clue how to defend. We might beat Inter 4-0 with him, and lose 3-0 against Sassuolo in the following game.
He also issues with man management. I doubt he’d be able to take on egos like CR7, Bonucci and Dybala when he could barely cope with Papu Gomez.
Finally, at Atalanta, he has no pressure to win trophies so he had all the time in the world to implement his ideas.

His team might defend better with MDL Chiellini and Demiral.
C.Ronaldo - He would bend over to Ronaldo like every other manager..
Bonucci - No problem we can ship him away if thats the problem...
Dybala - I dont think he is problematic at all. Papu is way more of a problematic figure compared to Dybala.
The fact Dybala has been benched so often and he isnt acting like a superstar who must play means Dybala is actually not a problem in that sense.

In terms of coaching style I rather S.Inzaghi to be honest but his team is based on great midfield and Im not sure if our team characteristics fit his style.
The team I enjoyed watching in terms of just pure football was Lazio (last season).
I have never been overly impressed with Atalanta BUT you must admit Gasperini did some serious work there - He went in the CL further than us despite have a much weaker team and a much lower budget.

The main issues about Gasp are defending and consistency just like you said but we have the best defense on paper and we are one of the most consistent teams in Europe.

Im not saying he should be the only option but he would for sure fix our chance creating problem as if he does it for Atalanta he can surely do it for Juve.

In terms of playing style - I like Zidane, Inzaghi, Klopp (although his Liverpool are falling apart this season) - Less tiki taka and more concrete.
This being said, I wouldnt be crying if we get someone like Pep even if he is not my favorite coach.

 

[Akshen]

Gasperini can work with good players, but he cant handle stars, just look at Gomez. We should stick to Pirlo now and see what he can do till the end of the season. If we wanted to sack him then we should have do it before the winter break, now it makes no sense. And tbf i much more prefer Pirlos hybrid than Gasp with his pure 352.
The other guy - Inzaghi - his Lazio plays like this because he has two worldclass midfielders in Luis Alberto and SMS, he wont have them here, can u imagine how his team would play if he replaced them with Rabiot and Bentancur?
As i said its better to stick with Pirlo for now and see how he does in CL, because i have a good feelings on it and the scudetto race is not over at all.

 

[Orgut]

Gasperini can work with good players, but he cant handle stars, just look at Gomez. We should stick to Pirlo now and see what he can do till the end of the season. If we wanted to sack him then we should have do it before the winter break, now it makes no sense. And tbf i much more prefer Pirlos hybrid than Gasp with his pure 352.
The other guy - Inzaghi - his Lazio plays like this because he has two worldclass midfielders in Luis Alberto and SMS, he wont have them here, can u imagine how his team would play if he replaced them with Rabiot and Bentancur?
As i said its better to stick with Pirlo for now and see how he does in CL, because i have a good feelings on it and the scudetto race is not over at all.

Unless I see Gasp problems with another player I consider it as a single incident.
Inzaghi would be great if he is able to bring SMS with him