Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (42 Viewers)

[Cerval]

Lol what, why should we be the ones on the defensive?? This is not our problem

I get you, but usually at a company when an employee at a position of power say dumb things, the company act by dissociating itself from the comment. In a way Leo is an employee of Juve and this reflects on the latter

If he was fined at least it would send a message

 

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[Buck Fuddy]

It would probably be best for "us" to keep quiet.
Considering only a few months ago our own Curva Sud was banned for one game because of racist chants.

 

[Cerval]

It would probably be best for "us" to keep quiet.
Considering only a few months ago our own Curva Sud was banned for one game because of racist chants.

We wanted to act by banning the individuals, I think that suggests Juve wanted to dissociate themselves from them either way

 

[.zero]

Let's be honest, this is a tiny thread to the larger tapestry of a cultural problem that plagues European football.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

We wanted to act by banning the individuals, I think that suggests Juve wanted to dissociate from them from them either way

Do you actually believe that? I sure don't.

 

[Osman]

It would probably be best for "us" to keep quiet.
Considering only a few months ago our own Curva Sud was banned for one game because of racist chants.

Allegri and Agnelli keep asking for proper rules and security measures to ban racists from the stand whenever an incident happens. To deaf ears since its Italy, but it doesnt hurt to repeat this again and shame them further.



And oh, fuck Bonucci, I would honestly fine him, and threaten him that he is to be sold back to Milan.

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[Cerval]

Do you actually believe that? I sure don't.

I'm curious to know what makes it improbable

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Allegri and Agnelli keep asking for proper rules and security measures to ban racists from the stand whenever an incident happens. To deaf ears since its Italy, but it doesnt hurt to repeat this again and shame them further.

I'm curious to know what makes it improbable

Honestly, how difficult is it to identify people braking the rules (any rules really) inside the stadium & removing them from the grounds? Keep in mind that there are camera's everywhere & that you've got nowhere to run to or hide.

By entering the stadium, you agree to follow the applicable rules. (https://www.juventus.com/en/stadium-and-museum/on-a-matchday/rules-and-regulation/)

If you break these rules but are not removed (whether or not that would be a justified punishment is besides the point), then it's because the club doesn't want to remove you. Simple as that really. The club doesn't need permission to expell or ban anyone.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Let's be honest, this is a tiny thread to the larger tapestry of a cultural problem that plagues European football.

Or maybe the cultural red line for insults is different from one place to another, in Argentina for example it's all your mother this you mother that, if you take the same liberties in other cultures you will prolly get clipped.

 

[.zero]

Or maybe the cultural red line for insults is different from one place to another, in Argentina for example it's all your mother this you mother that, if you take the same liberties in other cultures you will prolly get clipped.

Perhaps

 

[He-Man]

But you know friends, that in FIFA, UEFA, FIGC and probably even in Juve structures are also racists, probably. Why hasnt anyone taken seriously this case yet? Because as I write, racists are everywhere. In mega corporations, in governments, in sport in high positions. It is known, this is a minority. But racists are not just uneducated people eg sitting with a beer on Curva Nord, but I know racists holding important positions in society. Fighting with racialism is like fighting a hydra, cutting off one head, two new will grow.


This is not a problem of the 21st century. Racism has always been, from antiquity, through the middle ages to modern times.

 

[The Quazis]

I think we should say something
More directed at how the Cagliari's Curva acted and how it's unacceptable
Look at all our social media pages, we are getting a ton of abuse because of Leo
Shift it back to Cagliari and have that Moron Leo write an official apology for what he said

LOL, does anybody read those posts?

 

[Cerval]

Honestly, how difficult is it to identify people braking the rules (any rules really) inside the stadium & removing them from the grounds? Keep in mind that there are camera's everywhere & that you've got nowhere to run to or hide.

By entering the stadium, you agree to follow the applicable rules. (https://www.juventus.com/en/stadium-and-museum/on-a-matchday/rules-and-regulation/)

If you break these rules but are not removed (whether or not that would be a justified punishment is besides the point), then it's because the club doesn't want to remove you. Simple as that really. The club doesn't need permission to expell or ban anyone.

You're making a good point there

 

[Ronn]

LOL, does anybody read those posts?

People who leave those? You're missing the point.

 

[The Quazis]

People who leave those? You're missing the point.

Oh, come on. Nobody is going to remember that tomorrow. Typical "news of the day" shitstorm. Maybe Bonu could have put that differently but crucifying him by the whole world publicly is like a new low.

 

[Ronn]

Oh, come on. Nobody is going to remember that tomorrow. Typical "news of the day" shitstorm. Maybe Bonu could have put that differently but crucifying him by the whole world publicly is like a new low.

Failing to back your teammate when he needs it most is the worst thing you can do in a team. Maybe it fades away in the news cycle but should not be forgotten by Juve fans easily.
And you of all people should not talk about new highs and new lows.

 

[The Quazis]

Failing to back your teammate when he needs it most is the worst thing you can do in a team. Maybe it fades away in the news cycle but should not be forgotten by Juve fans easily.
And you of all people should not talk about new highs and new lows.

Why shouldn't I talk about it? What you fail to understand is that public people like professional footballers will always be provoked and criticized for whatever reason, that's how this world operates. If Kean thinks that the insults gonna stop by him confronting the crowd then he is wrong. Leo is right in this case. Kean should enjoy the moment of playing for Juve and La Nazionale, he has the money, fame, everything, not everybody is as lucky as he is. Why would he bother with those chants? By such behavior he only fuels the insults.

 

[Ronn]

Why shouldn't I talk about it? What you fail to understand is that public people like professional footballers will always be provoked and criticized for whatever reason, that's how this world operates. If Kean thinks that the insults gonna stop by him confronting the crowd then he is wrong. Leo is right in this case. Kean should enjoy the moment of playing for Juve and La Nazionale, he has the money, fame, everything, not everybody is as lucky as he is. Why would he bother with those chants? By such behavior he only fuels the insults.

It doesn't matter, and you're missing the point again. Kean is NOT 50% responsible for Cagliary treatment, which happened even before his goal. Bonucci should either back his teammate, or shut the fuck up. It's especially hypocritical of Bonucci since he did a very provocative celebration last season in Juve stadium.

 

[The Quazis]

It doesn't matter, and you're missing the point again. Kean is NOT 50% responsible for Cagliary treatment, which happened even before his goal. Bonucci should either back his teammate, or shut the fuck up. It's especially hypocritical of Bonucci since he did a very provocative celebration last season in Juve stadium.

That's true, the set of words Leo used was inappropriate but I think that generally what he meant was that you won't make those people silent by confronting them. In fact, that's a reaction they're hoping for.

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[Hydde]

That's true, the set of words Leo used was inappropriate but I think that generally what he meant was that you won't make those people silent by confronting them. In fact, that's a reaction they're hoping for.

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Been trying to make people understand this for days, but i dont know whats going on with the reading of the common forumer nowadays.

Some say kean did nothing, but the fact is that he defied them in a useless onfield battle, just by stading in front of them and shoving the goal he just scored in their asses.

Those cavemen are not worth the time of the players on the game. The federation and stadium owners are the ones who should take the bull by the horns, but they do nothing.

This is not an issue that players must solve but them. The players are free to condemn racism tho. Its the rigjht thing to do.