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[acmilan]

He will prolly get more guaranteed money in a 4 year contract somewhere else

you seem rather hopeful there

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So now that he has opted out of his contract, he will now stand for the National Anthem


What a piece of shit this guy is. A fucking fraud. What the FUCK has changed in this country, other than you no longer making any money, that made you change your mind


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18805744/colin-kaepernick-stand-national-anthem-next-season

a self-serving clown indeed ...

how are you feeling about Kyle S as the new 9ers coach?

 

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[blondu]

chicago could take him...

 

[GordoDeCentral]

chicago could take him...

Fuck no

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you seem rather hopeful there

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a self-serving clown indeed ...

how are you feeling about Kyle S as the new 9ers coach?

Not hopeful, but why else would he opt out

 

[KB824]

you seem rather hopeful there

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a self-serving clown indeed ...

how are you feeling about Kyle S as the new 9ers coach?

I love it. He was my top choice after McDaniels, and once that didn't work out, I was all in on Shanahan. He has a really good football mind. I don't care about his overagressive play calling in the Super Bowl. You go with what got you there.

I was far more skeptical about Lynch as the GM. Not because of his intelligence (Dude graduated from Stanford afterall), but because of his lack of front office experience. But once he hired Adam Peters away from the Broncos, I started to get a feeling that he is going to surround himself with the right people. And when two of the top football executives in the game (John Elway and John Schneider) sing the praises of your new GM, that's always a plus.

I'm optimistic for the future of this club for the first time since they hired Jim 7 years ago. They are certainly going to suck this year, but I'm totally cool with that. I've seen this club in the past 15 years have to rebuild several times over, so I'm used to it. Just like I'm used to the Lakers being horrible again this year. It's all about the future

 

[ALC]

Oh give me a break on the Lakers.

 

[acmilan]

Fuck no

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Not hopeful, but why else would he opt out

It may well be a waste of time looking for reason as the driving force behind anything Kaepernick says or does.
Probably a ton of different wrinkles to his situation/circumstances at the 9ers that we don't know about.
My best guess is, like any QB in this league, he is driven by ego and he, without a shadow of a doubt, believes he can still be a starting star-QB in the league ... just not with the 9ers.

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Oh give me a break on the Lakers.

certainly not as good as the 76ers, right? Right?

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I love it. He was my top choice after McDaniels, and once that didn't work out, I was all in on Shanahan. He has a really good football mind. I don't care about his overagressive play calling in the Super Bowl. You go with what got you there.

I was far more skeptical about Lynch as the GM. Not because of his intelligence (Dude graduated from Stanford afterall), but because of his lack of front office experience. But once he hired Adam Peters away from the Broncos, I started to get a feeling that he is going to surround himself with the right people. And when two of the top football executives in the game (John Elway and John Schneider) sing the praises of your new GM, that's always a plus.

I'm optimistic for the future of this club for the first time since they hired Jim 7 years ago. They are certainly going to suck this year, but I'm totally cool with that. I've seen this club in the past 15 years have to rebuild several times over, so I'm used to it. Just like I'm used to the Lakers being horrible again this year. It's all about the future

9ers fans have a lot to be hopeful for with this fresh start.
One thing that would concern me with Kyle S is if he is true HC material or just great OC material. A long list of people who were born to be coordinators and not head-coaches - McDaniels may well be one such example.
There is no doubt that Kyle S knows his Xs and Os and I am sure he can figure out quickly enough the requirements of the HC position from organizational perspective.
The one thing that would make him or break him, however, is if he has the charisma to be a leader and command the respect of his players ... That is probably the number one requirement for a proper HC, imo.
I thought the Broncos job was tailor-made for Kyle S and, if I were a 9ers fan, it would worry me that Elway went with Joseph over Kyle S, especially when you consider that being "a leader of men and commanding the room" seemed like the qualities that got Joseph the job over other, more qualified candidates, including Kyle S ... and Joseph hadn't exactly done a great job as the Dolphins DC this past season.

 

[KB824]

Oh give me a break on the Lakers.

Nobody asked you. Good luck on finding help for the Eagles with the 50.00 in cap space they have

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It may well be a waste of time looking for reason as the driving force behind anything Kaepernick says or does.
Probably a ton of different wrinkles in his situation/circumstances at the 9ers that we don't know about.
My best guess is, like any QB in this league, he is driven by ego and he, without a shadow of a doubt, believes he can still be a starting star-QB in the league ... just not with the 9ers.

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certainly not as good as the 76ers, right? Right?

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9ers fans have a lot to be hopeful for with this fresh start.
One thing that would concern me with Kyle S is if he is true HC material or just great OC material. A long list of people who were born to be coordinators and not head-coaches - McDaniels may well be one such example.
There is no doubt that Kyle S knows his Xs and Os and I am sure he can figure out quickly enough the requirements of the HC position from organizational perspective.
The one thing that would make him or break him, however, is if he has the charisma to be a leader and command the respect of his players ... That is probably the number one requirement for a proper HC, imo.
I thought the Broncos job was tailor-made for Kyle S and, if I were a 9ers fan, it would worry me that Elway went with Joseph over Kyle S, especially when you consider that being "a leader of men and commanding the room" seemed like the qualities that got Joseph the job over other, more qualified candidates, including Kyle S ... and Joseph hadn't exactly done a great job as the Dolphins DC this past season.

Not worried at all. Shanahan gets a chance to put his imprint on the franchise, to build something from the ground up, with a GM and front office that he has synergy with. Joseph wouldn't have been given that opportunity

 

[ALC]

@acmilan the sixers are indeed better

@King of Kings alshon Jeffery, I'm telling you

 

[acmilan]

@acmilan the sixers are indeed better

@King of Kings alshon Jeffery, I'm telling you

:motta:

 

[ALC]

:motta:

Dude, we're prepping to make a push for the ring in a couple years once Simmonds, Embiid, Saric, etc get used to the league.

 

[acmilan]

Dude, we're prepping to make a push for the ring in a couple years once Simmonds, Embiid, Saric, etc get used to the league.

:motta:

 

[KB824]

@acmilan the sixers are indeed better

@King of Kings alshon Jeffery, I'm telling you

If they can get all of their players healthy, it's possible. But I fear that Embiid could be this generations Bill Walton. An amazing center who will never stay healthy. Oddly enough, the Lakers core is younger than the Sixers Core, with Ingram and Zubac only 19 years old, Russell just turned 21, and Randle is 22.

And I don't know if you watched any of that game against the Heat the other day, but Okafor is an absolute mess. He just doesn't give a shit about defense, or even being out on the court. At this point, they need to move him for whatever they can get, even if it is a couple of 2nd round picks. That dude is flat out lazy. That shit is NOT going to play out well in Philly, of all cities.

 

[ALC]

If they can get all of their players healthy, it's possible. But I fear that Embiid could be this generations Bill Walton. An amazing center who will never stay healthy. Oddly enough, the Lakers core is younger than the Sixers Core, with Ingram and Zubac only 19 years old, Russell just turned 21, and Randle is 22.

And I don't know if you watched any of that game against the Heat the other day, but Okafor is an absolute mess. He just doesn't give a shit about defense, or even being out on the court. At this point, they need to move him for whatever they can get, even if it is a couple of 2nd round picks. That dude is flat out lazy. That shit is NOT going to play out well in Philly, of all cities.

Yeah, we're definitely getting rid of Okafor. I was a little upset Noel had to go but oh well. All eggs are in the Embiid basket and it looks like the basket may be more fragile than the eggs themselves. But if his injuries somehow go away, that dude will be one of the best centers in NBA history.

The Lakers seem to have a nice rebuild going. But the Process has been ongoing for much longer

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:motta:

I hope a dildo gets lodged in your asshole and becomes impossible to take out. But then again, you already seem to have a stick up your ass so I doubt you'd notice anything different.

 

[acmilan]

Yeah, we're definitely getting rid of Okafor. I was a little upset Noel had to go but oh well. All eggs are in the Embiid basket and it looks like the basket may be more fragile than the eggs themselves. But if his injuries somehow go away, that dude will be one of the best centers in NBA history.

The Lakers seem to have a nice rebuild going. But the Process has been ongoing for much longer

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I hope a dildo gets lodged in your asshole and becomes impossible to take out. But then again, you already seem to have a stick up your ass so I doubt you'd notice anything different.

:motta:

 

[acmilan]

Fuck no

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Not hopeful, but why else would he opt out

Yo, Fat Fuck

What if I told you that maybe, just maybe Jimmy G is headed to his childhood team ... would that make your day better?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yo, Fat Fuck

What if I told you that maybe, just maybe Jimmy G is headed to his childhood team ... would that make your day better?

Why isn't Shanahan trying to get him? I honestly can't tell with him, plus this qb fixation will make us eternal losers

 

[acmilan]

Why isn't Shanahan trying to get him? I honestly can't tell with him, plus this qb fixation will make us eternal losers

He might be but it will be a bidding war, most likely. Getting Jimmy G will not be cheap and Kyle S may well be waiting for Cousins in 2018.
Every franchise needs that QB, I guess.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

He might be but it will be a bidding war, most likely. Getting Jimmy G will not be cheap and Kyle S may well be waiting for Cousins in 2018.
Every franchise needs that QB, I guess.

But you figure if Shanahan thought hes indeed a franchise qb he would be worth the high price since the 9ers just like the bears are far removed from immediate success.

 

[acmilan]

But you figure if Shanahan thought hes indeed a franchise qb he would be worth the high price since the 9ers just like the bears are far removed from immediate success.

It depends on how they decide to go about building their team - several routes could take a team there e.g. get the QB first and then build around him or build the roster and be patient with your QB.
I'd argue that the Bears have a considerably more talented roster, overall, than the 9ers, so they are closer to the point where they may be going all-in for the QB.

Also, there comes a point in such transactions, where the price, as well as the risk, reach levels where the people involved may be having seconds thoughts if they aren't making a mistake. Maybe one team thinks the risk is worth it, another doesn't ... that doesn't mean that team 1 wouldn't be proven right in time, while team 2 would live to regret not being bolder.

How hard 9ers go after Jimmy G would also be influenced by the potential availability of Cousins next year - unless he signs an extension with the Skins, he will be a free agent in 2018 and he is well aware of Kyle S' interest in working again with him.

That doesn't necessarily mean KS likes him better than Garoppolo, just that Cousins could well be available as a free agent i.e. 9ers won't have to part with any precious draft capital.

Also, the QB draft in 2018 is expected to be much more talented than this one, so the 9ers may well have an alternative to signing Cousins and just draft their QB in 2018.

In relation to my last point, it's worth mentioning that every coach/GM pair comes with their own circumstances - Bears/Browns coaching staff and front office may well feel (guessing here) they have to improve the team as soon as possible to keep their jobs, while Kyle S and John Lynch just got a 6-year mandate, so they are on a longer leash to find a QB. If you are in hurry, you either have to draft a QB this year where no QBs are really projected to be great or trade for Garoppolo who promises the potential to be a real franchise QB albeit at a presumably higher price.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It depends on how they decide to go about building their team - several routes could take a team there e.g. get the QB first and then build around him or build the roster and be patient with your QB.
I'd argue that the Bears have a considerably more talented roster, overall, than the 9ers, so they are closer to the point where they may be going all-in for the QB.

Also, there comes a point in such transactions, where the price, as well as the risk, reach levels where the people involved may be having seconds thoughts if they aren't making a mistake. Maybe one team thinks the risk is worth it, another doesn't ... that doesn't mean that team 1 wouldn't be proven right in time, while team 2 would live to regret not being bolder.

How hard 9ers go after Jimmy G would also be influenced by the potential availability of Cousins next year - unless he signs an extension with the Skins, he will be a free agent in 2018 and he is well aware of Kyle S' interest in working again with him.

That doesn't necessarily mean KS likes him better than Garoppolo, just that Cousins could well be available as a free agent i.e. 9ers won't have to part with any precious draft capital.

Also, the QB draft in 2018 is expected to be much more talented than this one, so the 9ers may well have an alternative to signing Cousins and just draft their QB in 2018.

In relation to my last point, it's worth mentioning that every coach/GM pair comes with their own circumstances - Bears/Browns coaching staff and front office may well feel (guessing here) they have to improve the team as soon as possible to keep their jobs, while Kyle S and John Lynch just got a 6-year mandate, so they are on a longer leash to find a QB. If you are in hurry, you either have to draft a QB this year where no QBs are really projected to be great or trade for Garoppolo who promises the potential to be a real franchise QB albeit at a presumably higher price.

Your last point might explain why the bears would be more aggressive but it doesn't address whether it is a judicious choice or not. I personally think the bears need help in defense first but seeing as we always mess up in the draft i don't mind giving our first rounder to gamble on a local boy