Alvaro Morata (56 Viewers)

[Hydde]

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/114863/MatchStatistics/Paulo-Dybala

Go look at all the games that he won alone with his contributions.

Yes, he did have a bad season in Europe other than helping down Tottenham, but very few of our players did have good seasons there this year. Even our veterans looked like complete garbage in some games.

We've been praying for a player like him for years following our return to winning, and now people want to get rid of him.

Thats why he should not be sold.

One reason is his potential. A synched Dybala as our main forward is something we have never seen. Right now i see he is always in a bad mood, like "fuk this". I want to see him firing on all cilinders and enjoying his game. You can see his discomfort in Juventus, is palpable.

The other reason is that we dont have Marketing players outside of him anymore. Pogba was one, but he just wasnt at thelevel or marketability Dybala can reach. Right now, most young peeps know Juve because of Dybalas face and his dybala mask. Losing that could leave us without "identity" in the eyes of bandwagoners and new football fans.

Thats is simply a no go for an organization that is dying to get revenue from new markets. Simply a no go.

 

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[Bianconero81]

I wish we could trade Dybala for all those players, but realistically it's not possible. I don't want to sell Dybala, but if the price is right...

The question is, do we have confidence in our front office to do what's right? I'm not so sure... And you can't really blame them, prices are insane these days.

Yes, I can blame them. You just answered your own question. If we can't get a proper replacement, and we probably won't, then let's not sell in the first place. We all saw how we went from an awesome midfield to what we currently have (incredibly underwhelming).

Everyone shits on Dybala because they expect more from him, and that's kind of fair. How about Higuain tho? We paid more than double to acquire him, and it's not like he's Mr. Consistency personified. Ditto for Pjanic.

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Afraid of being banned? Allegri would be proud of such pussy tactics, bro.

Gotta maintain them "pussy" tactics Bro

 

[Zacheryah]

so Higuains potential contribution is limited to a box striker finisher (and not exactly the deadliest according to this https://football-italia.net/SerieA/season/2017-18/top-scorers) while Dybala's ceiling is the sky, yet you want to retain the first one because we can't make Dybala perform to the max while playing out of position?

Talking about Dybala's contribution in big games, he's scored or assisted against each of Inter, Napoli, Milan, Lazio, while against Roma he was on the bench. In SuperCoppa final he scored 2. In CL he scored the tie-winning goal against Spurs coming straight from injury and had a bad game against RM when he was sent-off. Sure he's been in a slump this second part of the season, but he's hardly some big game choker you try to make him be

If Dybala is worth 150mil and all he can do is have 2 important contributions in exactly one CL game, and some good games in serie a, i'll sell immediately

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I don't want to get banned, so I'm gonna say this one more fucking time.

The only scenario in which a Dybala sale makes sense is if we are getting Griezmann, Martial, and SMS/Pogba in return. Since getting even one of those is a near impossible task for our "amazing and highly competent" board, then selling Dybala is an absolute fucking No!

I'm sure if we sell him and weaken the attack, add a couple of eclectic Jabronis, some Tuzzers will still find a reason to praise the board and endorse their madness.

Are you Zamparini's PR agent ?

 

[Bianconero81]

Are you Zamparini's PR agent ?

No. I'm just a logical netizen who doesn't want to see the club lose its best player and most marketable asset, in an era where image and marketing are vital to building your brand.

 

[pitbull]

If Dybala is worth 150mil and all he can do is have 2 important contributions in exactly one CL game, and some good games in serie a, i'll sell immediately

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Are you Zamparini's PR agent ?

He played in two CL knockout games, in one he got sent off rather harshly and in the other he scored the match winner. You keep saying how he's performing like a 30m striker, can you name me a 24 yo striker that scores andd assists as much as Paolo, maybe Beppe needs to give him a call?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Looks like Conte is saying Morata won’t be sold this summer

 

[DAiDEViL]

Has he any saying in this though?

Is he even going to be there when the new season kicks off?

 

[Hydde]

Has he any saying in this though?

Is he even going to be there when the new season kicks off?

Dont think so, IMO he is a goner.

In fact, even with him staying, i think morata will try to push an exit.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Looks like Conte is saying Morata won’t be sold this summer

Conte won’t even be their coach next season anyway.

 

[pavluska]

in a perfect world, we sell Dybala and purchase SMS and Morata.

Alternatives:

- Keep playing 433ish with Dybala on right/middle, DC on left, and Cuadra overlapping from RB. That should work.

- Play 4231. Sell Pjanic to have a more balanced midfield if you have to.


Both are better than selling Dybala and replacing him with an inferior player in attack.

 

[Fr3sh]

No. I'm just a logical netizen who doesn't want to see the club lose its best player and most marketable asset, in an era where image and marketing are vital to building your brand.

You should just come to terms that we are a selling club.

 

[Zacheryah]

Alternatives:

- Keep playing 433ish with Dybala on right/middle, DC on left, and Cuadra overlapping from RB. That should work.

- Play 4231. Sell Pjanic to have a more balanced midfield if you have to.


Both are better than selling Dybala and replacing him with an inferior player in attack.

- Will Dybala start to actually perform like Costa when doing alternative 1 ?

- Will this actually solve the issue ? Yes i like the potential of Dybala in a 4231 but he's inconsistant so many times

Oh and we played our best games without Dybala in attack


And, we need a new big quality CF in 2 years

 

[pitbull]

- Will Dybala start to actually perform like Costa when doing alternative 1 ?

- Will this actually solve the issue ? Yes i like the potential of Dybala in a 4231 but he's inconsistant so many times

Oh and we played our best games without Dybala in attack


And, we need a new big quality CF in 2 years

Will Higuain start scoring twice as much if we get another Costa instead of Dybala? I highly doubt.

Will moving Dybala to CF and getting a strong LW in Martial/Morata compensate Higgy's contribution? I think it will exceed it.

2nd scenario is young and, if someone wants out, they have high resale value. first scenario is a short term solution that very soon we'll have to fix by selling valuable assets from other positions, Higuain will fetch us max 15m in 2 years, if that

 

[Maddy]

Conte won’t even be their coach next season anyway.

And even if he would be, that isn't his decision. Conte is clearly being overruled.

 

[Zacheryah]

Will Higuain start scoring twice as much if we get another Costa instead of Dybala? I highly doubt.

Will moving Dybala to CF and getting a strong LW in Martial/Morata compensate Higgy's contribution? I think it will exceed it.

2nd scenario is young and, if someone wants out, they have high resale value. first scenario is a short term solution that very soon we'll have to fix by selling valuable assets from other positions, Higuain will fetch us max 15m in 2 years, if that

Dybala isnt made to be a CF for an italian team of our style. We'd become extremely one dimensional too.


Contribution, i cant care less. I care about players deciding games.

Costa has been a deciding factor all the time. Making a difference. Dybala doesnt most off the time.

Getting another player who can do that,is what i want




Look at barcelona. Contribution always high. If only they had plan b, c and d like madrid the past years

 

[pitbull]

Dybala isnt made to be a CF for an italian team of our style. We'd become extremely one dimensional too.

Contribution, i cant care less. I care about players deciding games.

Costa has been a deciding factor all the time. Making a difference. Dybala doesnt most off the time.

Getting another player who can do that,is what i want

Look at barcelona. Contribution always high. If only they had plan b, c and d like madrid the past years

lol, Dybala has decided way more games this season compared to Costa, we were practically a one man team first months of the season, while Costa was a bench player with 1 goal and 4 assists until January.

2nd part of the season I agree, Costa has been in beast form while Paolo has been fighting injuries and trying to fit into different lineups.

fact is, both are players capable of deciding games and so is Higuain, but we need the right balance and putting two wingers behind Gonzalo won't do that. if you want to field 2 assist machines, buy a proper CF so they have someone to cross to, from the 13 assists Costa has had this season, Higuain scored 3 goals and he's our CF in 98% of the games

 

[Zacheryah]

lol, Dybala has decided way more games this season compared to Costa, we were practically a one man team first months of the season, while Costa was a bench player with 1 goal and 4 assists until January.

2nd part of the season I agree, Costa has been in beast form while Paolo has been fighting injuries and trying to fit into different lineups

Dybala decided games for the best serie a team, in serie a. He didnt carry them or anything. He sometimes appeared and scored/assisted and was invisible most of the time

Costa when emerging, was visible, made the difference, made assists : in the most important part of the season and in europe.

Again, Dybala was blind and invisible against tottenham, untill allegri's tactical shift, and he again appeared twice


Imma use old terminology here.

Costa is a "champion". Players who will go and carry the team forward, decide games and change games

Dybala is not "a champion". He'll do jack shit if the team sucks ass. He requires someone else to bring the game up and will appear when he feels like it.




This is why i like costa. He'll carry the team when nothing is happening and actively seek to create things


And i doubt Dybala will ever be that here.

 

[pitbull]

Dybala decided games for the best serie a team, in serie a. He didnt carry them or anything. He sometimes appeared and scored/assisted and was invisible most of the time

Costa when emerging, was visible, made the difference, made assists : in the most important part of the season and in europe.

Again, Dybala was blind and invisible against tottenham, untill allegri's tactical shift, and he again appeared twice


Imma use old terminology here.

Costa is a "champion". Players who will go and carry the team forward, decide games and change games

Dybala is not "a champion". He'll do jack shit if the team sucks ass. He requires someone else to bring the game up and will appear when he feels like it.

This is why i like costa. He'll carry the team when nothing is happening and actively seek to create things


And i doubt Dybala will ever be that here.

did you even watch Juve in August and September?

 

[JuveJay]

The main benefit I see with Morata is purely CL, that quick countering threat. Because otherwise he's just going to be a rotational player.

Still, he has the right spirit and wants to play for this club, knows the club, knows the players. I expect him to score great goals, difficult goals, and fluff good chances.

 

[Zacheryah]

did you even watch Juve in August and September?

yes we were awfull