Alvaro Morata (57 Viewers)

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Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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I am gonna explain once again my stance on forwards:
SS: a forward that has a supporting role in the attact, most of the times its about creative 10's that can ocassionally score, but sometimes they are fast runners or wide players that open defences, also ocassionally they are tall target men that favor back passing, rather than shooting. Their primary role is to contribute in scoring chances.
They usually score 8-12 league goals per season. More than AMs, less than finishers.

Finishers: Specialised players that are entrusted with the CF role mostly and are the tip of any attack,
their specific characteristic is that they are deadly at shooting, converting a large proportion of their chances, some of them are the full packet, like Drogba, who could create and finish by himself, others are limited to one field of finishing action, like our Pippo who specialised at abusing the offside trap, or Crouch who is focused on headers.
Decent/average finishers, starters good teams, score at least one goal every two games they participate, as the average number of league games vary 28-23, so its roughly 14-16 league goals per season. And maybe 18 once in their carrier.
This is the best we can do, buy an average player after his wonder year, or a couple of years later, mostly to boast, rather than benefit.


The great ones score more than that and with consistency,they end up in champion teams, they average at +16 league goals per season, this is the kind of material Juve ought to have but Marotta cant sign.
Higuain is a typical example, Balotelli, Klose and Dzeko too, strangely, somehow every other Serie A team can find one, but us...

And of course they are the gifted ones that can score up to +20 league goals per season, for at least 2-3 consecutive years, players we can only dream of, because they are and tend to be the most expensive in the transfer market
and unfortunately serve only to distract us from our realistic targets and our chances to actually improve our squad...

We usually aim for a gifted forward and end up getting and average one, instead of focusing at getting one good.

All of the finishers we got average 11-15 league per season, with one or two wonder season, than naturally happen to everyone, so our finisher problem persists...
 

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May 27, 2009
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I am gonna explain once again my stance on forwards:
SS: a forward that has a supporting role in the attact, most of the times its about creative 10's that can ocassionally score, but sometimes they are fast runners or wide players that open defences, also ocassionally they are tall target men that favor back passing, rather than shooting. Their primary role is to contribute in scoring chances.
They usually score 8-12 league goals per season. More than AMs, less than finishers.

Finishers: Specialised players that are entrusted with the CF role mostly and are the tip of any attack,
their specific characteristic is that they are deadly at shooting, converting a large proportion of their chances, some of them are the full packet, like Drogba, who could create and finish by himself, others are limited to one field of finishing action, like our Pippo who specialised at abusing the offside trap, or Crouch who is focused on headers.
Decent/average finishers, starters good teams, score at least one goal every two games they participate, as the average number of league games vary 28-23, so its roughly 14-16 league goals per season. And maybe 18 once in their carrier.
This is the best we can do, buy an average player after his wonder year, or a couple of years later, mostly to boast, rather than benefit.


The great ones score more than that and with consistency,they end up in champion teams, they average at +16 league goals per season, this is the kind of material Juve ought to have but Marotta cant sign.
Higuain is a typical example, Balotelli, Klose and Dzeko too, strangely, somehow every other Serie A team can find one, but us...

And of course they are the gifted ones that can score up to +20 league goals per season, for at least 2-3 consecutive years, players we can only dream of, because they are and tend to be the most expensive in the transfer market
and unfortunately serve only to distract us from our realistic targets and our chances to actually improve our squad...

We usually aim for a gifted forward and end up getting and average one, instead of focusing at getting one good.

All of the finishers we got average 11-15 league per season, with one or two wonder season, than naturally happen to everyone, so our finisher problem persists...
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Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Yes Crouch is not a goalkeeper, the best feat in his entire carrier was breaking a header record...
He is a very limited mediocre/poor finisher, but nothing but a finisher...

And yes Dzeko in some injury free seasons with Wolfsburg has managed to score 22-26 league goals/season,
whilst Manzdukic has only managed to get 12-18 league goals in Wolfsburg and Bayern, thats quite the difference between the average finisher and the great one.
Yes they are both has beens and never will be again, but to reach 26 league goals in 32 league games, really does make a point and then score again 22 next year shows it wasnt random.

The idea is not about the current form, of those players, i had to use them as examples everyone will know to explain the type of player that can get those numbers.
The essence of what i am saying lies on those numbers. A good finisher is able to convert at least one goal for at least every two matches he is playing, thats what really matters, he ought to be prolific enough and with consistency.
In the long run, what takes apart the great ones from the average ones is how often they can score more than one goal every two games. Messi and C. Ronaldo score more than one per game.
Even 1/1 would be an insane demand, but average of 18 league goals per season, at least and an ocassional Capocannoniere season, is what we should be aiming for!
That was the Trezequet standars we are still chasing, someone who could compete for the Capocannoniere title with consistency and occassionally win it!

The 8 goals Morata has scored with us last season, just doesnt cut it...
8-12 goals is the average of SSs and CMs like Vidal, without any disregard to Morata and his overall quality, since Dybala will be our undisputed starter forward, who is a great SS, specialised at creating,
he need to be complemented with a forward who brings the numbers.
He could improve of course but Berardi can too and he already is in the 15-16 serie A goals tier, Immobile has shown that promise when he has scored those 22, Morata has kind of failed that in those 2 years.

Zaza as Sassuolo score 9-11, we have a typical nose for those 8-12 ones and are typically failing to get those consistent 16-19 ones, we should.
 

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