Alvaro Morata (89 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Well we have to do something because this having only three forwards right now with mandzu limping around isn't ideal

We don't even know what's wrong with Morata yet. Or whether he'll be out a few days, a few weeks, a few months. Let's hold off on saying we are dire need. Mandzu will also be back in 2 weeks.

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

We don't even know what's wrong with Morata yet. Or whether he'll be out a few days, a few weeks, a few months. Let's hold off on saying we are dire need. Mandzu will also be back in 2 weeks.

Still we should have had 5 forwards not four. Now if morata is out for a few weeks you have two forwards and better hope no one even gets breathed on the wrong way

 

[Siamak]

Why would you say that? He's not getting paid at Boca and wants out. Why wouldn't we grab him up especially if morata is out for four months

we are not barca and can't change the rules whenever that we want! we used our non-EU spots already (Cuadrado and sandro)

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why is that quoted for X?

He's the Boca expert. I wonder what he thinks about it.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

He's the Boca expert. I wonder what he thinks about it.

Interesting didn't know

 

[AndreaCristiano]

we are not barca and can't change the rules whenever that we want! we used our non-EU spots already (Cuadrado and sandro)

We also need a forward beside him we need to carry 5!

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Thank fuck it's nothing serious.

Oh and once again, fuck off international football. Waste of fucking time.

 

[Stevie]

I am freaking out hope he is ok ive just read that he os heavily bruised thabkgof i never read anything before mentioning fracture or i wpuld of jumped face first through a window.

 

[juventino320]

can it things go worse this year ?! wtf
i hope nothing serious....

 

[Post Ironic]

I am freaking out hope he is ok ive just read that he os heavily bruised thabkgof i never read anything before mentioning fracture or i wpuld of jumped face first through a window.

Literally? Or just figuratively?

 

[Knowah]

No fracture, bruising supposedly.

 

[Vlad]

Only bruise? Fiuuu

 

[Albo]

Fuck , I feel sorry for this guy .

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Not good, but nowhere near as bad as first thought.

God damn, can we just put an end to this farce known as international football.

 

[juventino320]

internationals is such a waste of time and joy, we just got asa back not we are risking more many.

 

[alexjuventino]

well if sky is right only two weeks out. Ill take it. but please only be the two weeks

 

[Hist]

It's pretty clear these modern Barca and Real teams are the most stacked in football history, just due to the sheer excess of funds and the lack of loyalty in top young players today in staying at clubs long-term. Did stacked teams happen in the past? Sure.

But if you were right about Ronaldo and Messi being the most dominant players of all-time, completely unstoppable, and a clear cut above anyone to play the game before, they'd have done much better for their national teams. Their goal-to-game ratio drops by more than 50% when they play with their national teams without these incredibly star-studded line-ups. Messi 49 in 105, C Ronaldo 55 in 123.

Fat Ronaldo dwarfs both these players as far as international play goes. 62 goals in 98. So did Pele. 77 goals in 91. Pele also scored at the same rate as these guys in club football.

The game favours these players like Messi and Ronaldo scoring massive amounts of goals in club football right now, as the disparity is far worse than it ever has been before in leagues like La Liga, Bundesliga, and Serie A. There's some half-decent competition at the top, but the parity in the lower parts of these leagues is absolutely atrocious, which is also shown by all the records clubs are breaking.

Messi and C. Ronaldo are the best players of their generation and two of the best players of all time (Messi over C. Ronaldo). But trying to claim they are better than the best players of previous generations is rather pointless and silly, and doesn't at all take into account differences in the game.

Thats all I am claiming. I am too removed from the Pele days to be able to compare. The examples I used are all players from the late 90s and 2000s like Kaka, Shevchenko, Nistelrooy, Henry, Del Piero, Zidane, Raul etc... I didn't go farther back because there probably are vast differences to the game. I am not sure but was there an offside rule in Pele's time? Its almost a different sport. Pele too (as far as I know) was a goal scoring anomaly himself. I've never heard of anyone from his era that scored that much goals. Garrincha (who I hear was one of the best players in the world during that time) doesn't have an impressive goal scoring record or ratio at all.

To see whether a player is an anomaly, compare his stats to the other players that were considered world class at the time. If you find that he is averaging more goals and assists than twice what the other world class players are doing then you've got a clear anomaly relative to his time.

You can then compare his stats with other great players in history and if you again find that he is doing almost twice as good as anyone else in history, then the earlier judgement (that the player is an anomaly) gets confirmed even further.

Now who is better, Pele or Ronaldo or Messi? He obviously has better stats with the NT while they do better at club level. But since there is a 60 year gap between them its impossible to tell who is better and whether this comparison is fair. What we do know is that all 3 are anomalies during their time and also across history. We cant say Messi is the better than Pele nor can we say that Pele is definitely better.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

well if sky is right only two weeks out. Ill take it. but please only be the two weeks

We can live with that, especially if Mandzukic is back after the break.

 

[alexjuventino]

We can live with that, especially if Mandzukic is back after the break.

zaza seems to be getting some confidence and dybala has been doing well so i think we can manage

 

[Post Ironic]

Thats all I am claiming. I am too removed from the Pele days to be able to compare. The examples I used are all players from the late 90s and 2000s like Kaka, Shevchenko, Nistelrooy, Henry, Del Piero, Zidane, Raul etc... I didn't go farther back because there probably are vast differences to the game. I am not sure but was there an offside rule in Pele's time? Its almost a different sport. Pele too (as far as I know) was a goal scoring anomaly himself. I've never heard of anyone from his era that scored that much goals. Garrincha (who I hear was one of the best players in the world during that time) doesn't have an impressive goal scoring record or ratio at all.

To see whether a player is an anomaly, compare his stats to the other players that were considered world class at the time. If you find that he is averaging more goals and assists than twice what the other world class players are doing then you've got a clear anomaly relative to his time.

You can then compare his stats with other great players in history and if you again find that he is doing almost twice as good as anyone else in history, then the earlier judgement (that the player is an anomaly) gets confirmed even further.

Now who is better, Pele or Ronaldo or Messi? He obviously has better stats with the NT while they do better at club level. But since there is a 60 year gap between them its impossible to tell who is better and whether this comparison is fair. What we do know is that all 3 are anomalies during their time and also across history. We cant say Messi is the better than Pele nor can we say that Pele is definitely better.

Excellent post.

Agree 100%.

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zaza seems to be getting some confidence and dybala has been doing well so i think we can manage

Dybala and Zaza actually look very good together when they have played. I'm not really a fan of Zaza, but his style of play seems to suit Dybala quite well.