Against Milan, We were Good! (3 Viewers)

[swag]

++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++
Milan could have scored at least 3 goals if luck were not with juve , take forexample pirlo shot at the end ,pure luck saved juve only so NO WE ARE NOT GOOD AGAINST MILAN

"Could have..."

"luck..."

I can be as down on Juve as Vinman on a bad day, but I'm not going to be. Yes, we were outplayed against Milan. Our offense was hideous and, well, non-existent ... extending what was already terrible against Lecce and Bologna in recent weeks. But on the other hand, Milan couldn't create many legitimate chances. They did not prove to me that they deserved to win that game. For your example, Pirlo took a sharp angle -- a difficult shot for anyone -- because he felt his chances were better there than powering it at Buffon. It wasn't an easy goal by any means.

This isn't horseshoes ... coming close doesn't count for anything.

Buffon had to hustle here and there, but for the most part, I'd have to say that Buffon had one of the more relaxing matches he's had in a while against Milan. Just compare his performance to Bologna the previous week -- he had to save our bacon over and over again.

And it should say something that Cannavaro got man of the match ... and not a Milan player.

Juve has their work cut out for them in form coming in January, particularly on offense. I wish we could have played better and won all three points. But we did the next best thing and frustrated the hell out of a Milan side that threw their best at us.

 

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[king Ale]

++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
I think the point primo is trying to make is: that a Milan on top form couldnt beat us. Which is a valid point

exactly.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
I think the point primo is trying to make is: that a Milan on top form couldnt beat us. Which is a valid point, but has little bearing in the context of the scudetto.

That said, i think the winter break has come at a better time for Juve than Milan.

good point

 

[Dr-Juve]

It was a pure tactical game
Draw is what capillo was looking for and he got it
Good game by both
Milan had the chance to get closer
Juve had the chance to keep it as it is
Juve Succeeded
Milan failed

 

[Primo]

Majed, when I say better, I mean that our potential is far more broad than Milan.
Imagine if we were playing on the same level as Milan? My point here is that they were clearly on a much higher level than us in this match, altough, we shared the points. I hope you do see what I'm trying to say.

And imagine switching the two teams' conditions that night. If Milan were lacklustre and we were on sparkling form, don't you think we could've ended the night with all three points?

It is already obvious that Milan was better that night. But I am saying IMO, that Juve are still a better side in terms of achieving the club's objectives. But to be honest, I still fear facing this Milan side on any day.

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Don Bes, I understand your frustration sometimes. But I assure you, when we take our chances, you'll thank yourself for being a Juve fan.

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Kaizer, I would be more ashamed to be a Milan fan that night as they did play much much better than us but shared the points with an uninspired Juve. I'd be afraid to face Juventus again after failing to beat them in this condition. A Milanese would be ashamed to take the christmas break as it would give Juve the chance to rejuvinate and get back at them.

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Swag, GREAT POINT: "Coming close doesn't count for anything"

I still believe what matters most if what you bring home from a match.

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Goal.com's article states my point very clearly. Juventus started their training camp very early, which explains why we hit our peak form earlier than Milan, and tired earlier than them. Milan on the other hand took longer to peak, and thus is still in better condition than us. The break will be more welcoming to Turin than Milan.

The way I see it, when we return from the break:

1.) We can either get back on form, and play magnificent once again, and still get the results.

2.) Play the same, but still be able to contain on form teams like Milan & Barca.

3.) The break might break Milan's momentum and they might lose their form, thus making it harder for them to get back to their peak. What's improtant is that I don't see Milan stepping up another level than how they played us this weekend.

4.) We play worse, and we lost everything.

Thats 3-1 positive hypotheses for us. For that, I am looking forward to this break.

 

[king Ale]

++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++
Majed, when I say better, I mean that our potential is far more broad than Milan.
Imagine if we were playing on the same level as Milan? My point here is that they were clearly on a much higher level than us in this match, altough, we shared the points. I hope you do see what I'm trying to say.

And imagine switching the two teams' conditions that night. If Milan were lacklustre and we were on sparkling form, don't you think we could've ended the night with all three points?

It is already obvious that Milan was better that night. But I am saying IMO, that Juve are still a better side in terms of achieving the club's objectives. But to be honest, I still fear facing this Milan side on any day.

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Don Bes, I understand your frustration sometimes. But I assure you, when we take our chances, you'll thank yourself for being a Juve fan.

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Kaizer, I would be more ashamed to be a Milan fan that night as they did play much much better than us but shared the points with an uninspired Juve. I'd be afraid to face Juventus again after failing to beat them in this condition. A Milanese would be ashamed to take the christmas break as it would give Juve the chance to rejuvinate and get back at them.

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Swag, GREAT POINT: "Coming close doesn't count for anything"

I still believe what matters most if what you bring home from a match.

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Goal.com's article states my point very clearly. Juventus started their training camp very early, which explains why we hit our peak form earlier than Milan, and tired earlier than them. Milan on the other hand took longer to peak, and thus is still in better condition than us. The break will be more welcoming to Turin than Milan.

The way I see it, when we return from the break:

1.) We can either get back on form, and play magnificent once again, and still get the results.

2.) Play the same, but still be able to contain on form teams like Milan & Barca.

3.) The break might break Milan's momentum and they might lose their form, thus making it harder for them to get back to their peak. What's improtant is that I don't see Milan stepping up another level than how they played us this weekend.

4.) We play worse, and we lost everything.

Thats 3-1 positive hypotheses for us. For that, I am looking forward to this break.

exactly what I wanted to say.thanx...:d

 

[Chxta]

++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++
Majed, when I say better, I mean that our potential is far more broad than Milan.
Imagine if we were playing on the same level as Milan? My point here is that they were clearly on a much higher level than us in this match, altough, we shared the points. I hope you do see what I'm trying to say.

And imagine switching the two teams' conditions that night. If Milan were lacklustre and we were on sparkling form, don't you think we could've ended the night with all three points?

It is already obvious that Milan was better that night. But I am saying IMO, that Juve are still a better side in terms of achieving the club's objectives. But to be honest, I still fear facing this Milan side on any day.

-

Don Bes, I understand your frustration sometimes. But I assure you, when we take our chances, you'll thank yourself for being a Juve fan.

-

Kaizer, I would be more ashamed to be a Milan fan that night as they did play much much better than us but shared the points with an uninspired Juve. I'd be afraid to face Juventus again after failing to beat them in this condition. A Milanese would be ashamed to take the christmas break as it would give Juve the chance to rejuvinate and get back at them.

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Swag, GREAT POINT: "Coming close doesn't count for anything"

I still believe what matters most if what you bring home from a match.

-

Goal.com's article states my point very clearly. Juventus started their training camp very early, which explains why we hit our peak form earlier than Milan, and tired earlier than them. Milan on the other hand took longer to peak, and thus is still in better condition than us. The break will be more welcoming to Turin than Milan.

The way I see it, when we return from the break:

1.) We can either get back on form, and play magnificent once again, and still get the results.

2.) Play the same, but still be able to contain on form teams like Milan & Barca.

3.) The break might break Milan's momentum and they might lose their form, thus making it harder for them to get back to their peak. What's improtant is that I don't see Milan stepping up another level than how they played us this weekend.

4.) We play worse, and we lost everything.

Thats 3-1 positive hypotheses for us. For that, I am looking forward to this break.

I love you!

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++

Don Bes, I understand your frustration sometimes. But I assure you, when we take our chances, you'll thank yourself for being a Juve fan.

dude i have never regreted being a juve fan. not even when lippi left us the first time and not even last year.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Primo ] ++
Majed, when I say better, I mean that our potential is far more broad than Milan.
Imagine if we were playing on the same level as Milan? My point here is that they were clearly on a much higher level than us in this match, altough, we shared the points. I hope you do see what I'm trying to say.

And imagine switching the two teams' conditions that night. If Milan were lacklustre and we were on sparkling form, don't you think we could've ended the night with all three points?

It is already obvious that Milan was better that night. But I am saying IMO, that Juve are still a better side in terms of achieving the club's objectives. But to be honest, I still fear facing this Milan side on any day.

-

Don Bes, I understand your frustration sometimes. But I assure you, when we take our chances, you'll thank yourself for being a Juve fan.

-

Kaizer, I would be more ashamed to be a Milan fan that night as they did play much much better than us but shared the points with an uninspired Juve. I'd be afraid to face Juventus again after failing to beat them in this condition. A Milanese would be ashamed to take the christmas break as it would give Juve the chance to rejuvinate and get back at them.

-

Swag, GREAT POINT: "Coming close doesn't count for anything"

I still believe what matters most if what you bring home from a match.

-

Goal.com's article states my point very clearly. Juventus started their training camp very early, which explains why we hit our peak form earlier than Milan, and tired earlier than them. Milan on the other hand took longer to peak, and thus is still in better condition than us. The break will be more welcoming to Turin than Milan.

The way I see it, when we return from the break:

1.) We can either get back on form, and play magnificent once again, and still get the results.

2.) Play the same, but still be able to contain on form teams like Milan & Barca.

3.) The break might break Milan's momentum and they might lose their form, thus making it harder for them to get back to their peak. What's improtant is that I don't see Milan stepping up another level than how they played us this weekend.

4.) We play worse, and we lost everything.

Thats 3-1 positive hypotheses for us. For that, I am looking forward to this break.

well done

 

[Maresca]

++ [ originally posted by «ƒÕ®zå JüV€» ] ++


this is what i was exactly discussing the other day with one of my friends..
despite how " amazing" (not imo though) sheva is he still can never break juves defence in this match or well its been a while since sheva scored on our net if im not mistaken
while juve may have struggled with milan that match we just needed to work a lil extra harder or maybe just substituted our players we could have done better

did you want him to do something like what the lazio player (Pandev?) did?

 

[Chxta]

Is it true that Sheva's never scored against Juve?

 

[Eaglesnake_1]

he has scored against Juve more than once...

 

[Chxta]

When?

 

[Eaglesnake_1]

the winner penalty in the CL, and the goal he made to buffon three years ago...but probably there is more...

 

[Muha]

who cares if sheva scored or not ... we should be glad that he didnt in the delle alpi last saturday ... thanx god we had canna and thuram

 

[Primo]

Well, ever since this "modern rivalry" between Juve & Milan started (starting from the CL Finals) Sheva has never scored against us in open play, i think.

But I doubt that trend will continue as Sheva keeps on improving each game. Hopefully, our defense will always be up for the challenge.

 

[Maher]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


"Could have..."

"luck..."

I can be as down on Juve as Vinman on a bad day, but I'm not going to be. Yes, we were outplayed against Milan. Our offense was hideous and, well, non-existent ... extending what was already terrible against Lecce and Bologna in recent weeks. But on the other hand, Milan couldn't create many legitimate chances. They did not prove to me that they deserved to win that game. For your example, Pirlo took a sharp angle -- a difficult shot for anyone -- because he felt his chances were better there than powering it at Buffon. It wasn't an easy goal by any means.

This isn't horseshoes ... coming close doesn't count for anything.

.

Milan at least came close to score in many occasions while us we did not even test deda at all and you cannot say that coming close doesn't count for anything cause it means you are better and you should win , it is not like defending only

 

[erado]

saw the match, rather disappointed with our players.. It seem they dont have the hunger to win the match or Milan pin us down with their midfielder quality?

A case of both, but I would still give advantage to our boys given that they are content with the draw.... Its job done coming year end with 4points ahead

Back to the topic, yes we were good. Our defense are solid. Cannavaro is god!!

 

[Desmond]

Sure we frustrated the hell out of Milan but i reckon the majority of the people here would hope that we were the ones who took the game to Milan and came away with only a point,not come away knowing we could well have lost by 2 goals.

Yes,coming close may have count for nothing on Saturday,but in the long run coming close so many times ultimately can only mean getting more points.

swag,you claim luck made no difference against Milan,but do you think we would be where we are now if it weren't for luck?A couple points off the pace?Second place finish in our CL group?We've had our fair share-if Pieri hadn't awarded us that free kick last week against Bologna and Milan had took their chances a little better we'd be going into Christmas trailing them.

Of course i do agree that while Milan asked alot of questions of our defence and the team in general,but the back line came up with most of the answers and Buffon wasn't forced into action too often.Hopefully it truly is a spate of bad form.

 

[«ƒÕ®zå JüV€»]

++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++
Milan could have scored at least 3 goals if luck were not with juve , take forexample pirlo shot at the end ,pure luck saved juve only so NO WE ARE NOT GOOD AGAINST MILAN

come on and ur saying juventus didnt have any good chances vs milan!!