Your underestimating Algeria. No way will Egypt beat this Algerian team by two goal difference.
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or maybe you oversestimate Algeria, i saw their first game the first half was all egypt; furthermore the game will be played in one of africa's trickiest venues: cairo stadium. Egypt play like gladiators in front of their fans i expect a good game and egypt to get the result they need or at least close to it.
Egypt suck, and I am saying this as an Egyptian. I watched the game against Zambia, and had it not been for that moment of brilliance, it would have ended 0-0, and Zambia should and would've felt hard done by even one point. We were that bad!
However, I can see us triumphing in Cairo by 2 goals. We must score early, and end the 1st half 1-0 to be in with a chance. If Algeria score first, it's all over, and if we go in at HT on level terms, then Algeria will most certainly qualify. If we fail to score before the 60th minute, then we are definitely out.
It saddens me to say this, but Algeria have by far been the better and more consistent team during this qualification process; however, of all the North African teams, I dislike Algeria the most because they are a bunch of dirty provocative turds. The Tunisians come a close 2'nd. I like the Moroccans because they actually play good football, and never resort to dirty tactics, unlike their other North African cousins. Hence, seeing Algeria qualify would be a double blow, simply because it would be at the expense of Egypt, (and it will have to be them of all teams to get that qualifying spot) irrespective of whether they deserve it or not.
However, I can see us triumphing in Cairo by 2 goals. We must score early, and end the 1st half 1-0 to be in with a chance. If Algeria score first, it's all over, and if we go in at HT on level terms, then Algeria will most certainly qualify. If we fail to score before the 60th minute, then we are definitely out.
It saddens me to say this, but Algeria have by far been the better and more consistent team during this qualification process; however, of all the North African teams, I dislike Algeria the most because they are a bunch of dirty provocative turds. The Tunisians come a close 2'nd. I like the Moroccans because they actually play good football, and never resort to dirty tactics, unlike their other North African cousins. Hence, seeing Algeria qualify would be a double blow, simply because it would be at the expense of Egypt, (and it will have to be them of all teams to get that qualifying spot) irrespective of whether they deserve it or not.
Allow me to rectify my earlier error. Egypt must win by 3 clear goals i.e. 3-0, 4-1, or 5-2. If we win by a margin of 1 goal, we are eliminated. A 2 goal margin would render both us and Algeria equal on points, goals scored, goal difference, etc...
Thus, a victory with a 2 goal margin would result in a coin toss, or a playoff (probably the latter) on neutral turf. The last time this happened to Egypt was in 1993, when Egypt had to play a one-off game against Zimbabwe (after the result of the first game was annulled due to crowd violence) to determine who would progress to the final qualifying round in the African section. We had managed to sneak by the Zimbabweans (led by the disgusting slime ball Grobellar) in the match that was later annulled, and in the replay we failed to score, thus compromising our chances of qualification, and handing/ceding the ticket to the final round, and the last spot, to Zimbabwe. I sincerely hope a playoff wouldn't be needed, but given the circumstances, I would opt for it right now, as I don't see us beating Algeria by 3 clear goals, and obviously it is the lesser of 2 evils (the other being elimination). I would also love to see us avenge our elimination at the hands of Algeria in an earlier qualification campaign (2002 qualifiers, when a draw against them cost us a place in the WC, and paved the way for Senegal to qualify).
Hence, we are in a precarious, albeit not impossible situation. Should we somehow manage to accomplish the highly improbable feat of defeating Algeria by 3 goals, we are in the World Cup for only the 3'rd time in our history.
Thus, a victory with a 2 goal margin would result in a coin toss, or a playoff (probably the latter) on neutral turf. The last time this happened to Egypt was in 1993, when Egypt had to play a one-off game against Zimbabwe (after the result of the first game was annulled due to crowd violence) to determine who would progress to the final qualifying round in the African section. We had managed to sneak by the Zimbabweans (led by the disgusting slime ball Grobellar) in the match that was later annulled, and in the replay we failed to score, thus compromising our chances of qualification, and handing/ceding the ticket to the final round, and the last spot, to Zimbabwe. I sincerely hope a playoff wouldn't be needed, but given the circumstances, I would opt for it right now, as I don't see us beating Algeria by 3 clear goals, and obviously it is the lesser of 2 evils (the other being elimination). I would also love to see us avenge our elimination at the hands of Algeria in an earlier qualification campaign (2002 qualifiers, when a draw against them cost us a place in the WC, and paved the way for Senegal to qualify).
Hence, we are in a precarious, albeit not impossible situation. Should we somehow manage to accomplish the highly improbable feat of defeating Algeria by 3 goals, we are in the World Cup for only the 3'rd time in our history.
i think we should'nt over estimate algeria to be frank but in the same time as bianconero81 pointed out we were shit poor against zambia and honestly we got a little bit lucky. in egypts defence though the stadium at zambia was beyond rubbish!!!! still not a good display for a team which really should be trying harder to reach the world cup for the first time since 1990!!! ( hell i was 6!!!! back then)
as it was pointed out in a previous post cairo stadium is a tough place and for algeria it will be quite hard bec i can imagine how the stadium will look like. 3 goals are not impossible but i find it hard if egypt plays the way they played against zambia.
as it was pointed out in a previous post cairo stadium is a tough place and for algeria it will be quite hard bec i can imagine how the stadium will look like. 3 goals are not impossible but i find it hard if egypt plays the way they played against zambia.
I've watched all 5 of Algeria's games in these qualifiers, i am not overestimating them. They are at least in my humble opinion the joint best Arab team right now along with Tunisia. This new generation of Algerian players is an extremely talented group, add to that the fact that they have quality depth too. In terms of individual players, they are the best Arab team right now and i believe are also among the top in Africa.
Another thing i want to point out is the strength of their defense. Their defense is really one of the strongest defensive units in Africa, they've only conceded 2 goals in 5 games, both goals have been conceded in games they have won with a 2 goal margin.
I personally give Egypt just a 10% chance to overcome this tough Algerian side.
Another thing i want to point out is the strength of their defense. Their defense is really one of the strongest defensive units in Africa, they've only conceded 2 goals in 5 games, both goals have been conceded in games they have won with a 2 goal margin.
I personally give Egypt just a 10% chance to overcome this tough Algerian side.
Algeria vs Rwanda
WCQ 2010 Gp.3 R5
Sunday 11 Oct 2009 , 18:15 GMT
Arabic Comm. - JSC Sport - FLV 1150 K - 320*240
Goals
First Goal for Rwanda by Mafisango 20
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First Goal for Algeria by Ghazal 21
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Second Goal for Algeria by Ghazal 48
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Third Goal for Algria by Karim Ziani 98
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Extras
Danger Shot by Al-Saifi off the Post 11
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Danger Shot by AbdulQader Ghazal right to the Goal 40
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A Goal for Algeria not counted by the Referee 41
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A Fight Between both teams
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Danger Shot for Algeria off the Bar 54
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Wonderful Skill by Al-Saifi but a Miss ! 58
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Nice Shot by Ghazal left to the Goal 65
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Highlights
First Half Highlights : Algeria 2-1 Rwanda
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Second Half Highlights : Algeria 3-1 Rwanda
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i dont know fred now u r just really under estimating egypt too!! yes we r not in our best at least not on the same level of the team that went on to win caf 2008. i think it will come down to who wants to go to the world cup the most.
i'm not taking anything from algeria but u cant deny they were lucky at alot of times too, its not just the quality of the team.
i'm not taking anything from algeria but u cant deny they were lucky at alot of times too, its not just the quality of the team.
I think this generation of Egyptian players is done. Ahmed Hassan, Wael Juma, Hani Saeed are all done. Trika is still a magician, but his body isn't helping him anymore, and you could feel that he doesn't have the energy to carry this Egyptian team on his shoulders right now. Then you have players who've been completely off form for a long time like Amr Zaki and Emad Met'eb.
The new generation does not look too promising either. Also like i said before, Algeria's defense is rock solid. A tough nut to crack, they have one of the strongest defenses in Africa. A tough nut to crack, i just can't imagine this Egyptian team winning by a two goal margin.
The new generation does not look too promising either. Also like i said before, Algeria's defense is rock solid. A tough nut to crack, they have one of the strongest defenses in Africa. A tough nut to crack, i just can't imagine this Egyptian team winning by a two goal margin.
so finally D-DAY is upon us now 
the build up to this game is just epic!! off course every set of fans are dissing up things at one another which is just adding to the rivalry between the two teams ( actually makes this a great one yet a very explosive fixture) i think it is hard on both teams, but i have complete faith egypt will do it. any way at the end this is a football game and i just hope it ends as a footie match.
shame i wont be at the stadium for this one as i could'nt get my hands on the tickets
the build up to this game is just epic!! off course every set of fans are dissing up things at one another which is just adding to the rivalry between the two teams ( actually makes this a great one yet a very explosive fixture) i think it is hard on both teams, but i have complete faith egypt will do it. any way at the end this is a football game and i just hope it ends as a footie match.shame i wont be at the stadium for this one as i could'nt get my hands on the tickets
there is alot at stake for both nations and its a dream for both teams.
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