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Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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#81
ReBeL said:
Well, after I told you the reasons that forces the person to blow himself up, you come back to say these words!!!

:disagree: :disagree:
sorry, I can't help it if you were talking toss mate :D

I just happened to disagree with your reasoning on that one. Must be my pigheaded pro-western approach to life, I'm sorry.
 

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Hambon

Lion of the Desert
Apr 22, 2005
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#82
Tom said:
Its VERY high in fact, I'd wager much more so than your own in any case. Yes, I do happen to believe that arabs (not all, but more than you are willing to concede) are willing to blow themselves up in the name of allah.

People go on about how its a peaceful religion but there's only so many times thats going to wash. Its the ONLY religion where this happens, the minute anyone criticises the religion and you're all up in arms demanding sacrifices!

If you ask me the world would be a much much btter place without Islam, terrorism would be virtually annulled and people might just be able to get along. Its ridiculous really how a load of teachings with no grounding in reality can inspire such hatred and stupidity. Thats life I guess

Those are some very bold statements Tommy Boy, i take it you have Phd in political science with all those unbiased facts and Pin point history....how old are you by the way....is it past your bedtime??

I dont have time now to give you any facts and history...but i will comment on those ill thought out words....mabey you should stick to the house & trance thread like altair said....because obviously you are a very narrow minded biased person when it comes to stereotyping Arabs (blowing them selves up) and for relegion in general....at least Erik,Ze tahir,mikhail,Altair....have all brought forth facts and true history not just outrageous comments like that. Please my friend do not insult religions with that ease. And i dont just mean islam...any other religion for that fact....these are the beliefs of people and should be respected and not steretyped....not all muslims are arab you know...do some more reading before you come up with things from thin air......:disagree:

These type of comments got your friend Seven banned.....i know you probably dont mean any harm.....but when it comes to any religious talks there must be respect.....
 

Rami

The Linuxologist
Dec 24, 2004
8,065
#83
Tom said:
Its VERY high in fact, I'd wager much more so than your own in any case. Yes, I do happen to believe that arabs (not all, but more than you are willing to concede) are willing to blow themselves up in the name of allah.

People go on about how its a peaceful religion but there's only so many times thats going to wash. Its the ONLY religion where this happens, the minute anyone criticises the religion and you're all up in arms demanding sacrifices!

If you ask me the world would be a much much btter place without Islam, terrorism would be virtually annulled and people might just be able to get along. Its ridiculous really how a load of teachings with no grounding in reality can inspire such hatred and stupidity. Thats life I guess
I think you should get your facts straight

Tamil Tigers, a secular Marxist-Leninist group from Hindu families of Sri Lanka, happen to be the world’s most prolific suicide bombers. Even groups operating within Muslim and Arab countries there are secular groups. Palestine’s Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and the front for the Liberation of Palestine are secular groups, the latter is Marxist. Whle in Turkey the PKK was the Kurdish Communist Party. Suicide bombers is not linked to Islam, that is a wrong perception, or how would you explain this issue being a plague only in the 20th century, where were the suicide martyrs in centuries before? Suicide bombing could be attributed to lots of different causes, acts of desperation, desire or fame, psychological sickness….etc. People willingly give up their lives for all kinds of causes and to some they will always be heroes. Kamikaze pilots anyone?
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
#85
Tom said:
If you ask me the world would be a much much btter place without Islam, terrorism would be virtually annulled and people might just be able to get along. Its ridiculous really how a load of teachings with no grounding in reality can inspire such hatred and stupidity. Thats life I guess
You seem like you know your shit. Please forgive me and accept my rebirth, for I have been blind for the past 21 years

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Mar 14, 2004
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My opinion:

If someone would occupy my country(let's say it was Palestina) with agression on basis of one book(bible or whatsoever) as Israel did...I would kill every jew on palestinian territory. So I support Hamas or any other military group that stands in a way of israel terrorysm and dictature. I also support their use of force towards israeli cowards cuz things that have been done by use of force and agression cannot be settled with talks and peaceful way. Eye for an eye,tooth for a tooth. Israeli people like to make victims of themselves,even 50 years after shit that Hitler did....but in reallity they are even worse then Hitler......
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    barkuss said:
    My opinion:

    If someone would occupy my country(let's say it was Palestina) with agression on basis of one book(bible or whatsoever) as Israel did...I would kill every jew on palestinian territory. So I support Hamas or any other military group that stands in a way of israel terrorysm and dictature. I also support their use of force towards israeli cowards cuz things that have been done by use of force and agression cannot be settled with talks and peaceful way. Eye for an eye,tooth for a tooth. Israeli people like to make victims of themselves,even 50 years after shit that Hitler did....but in reallity they are even worse then Hitler......
    What can I say??

    You had the same feelings of a normal Palestinian person...

    I hope you won't ever be in such conditions because you deserve better...
     
    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #94
    barkuss said:
    My opinion:

    If someone would occupy my country(let's say it was Palestina) with agression on basis of one book(bible or whatsoever) as Israel did...I would kill every jew on palestinian territory. So I support Hamas or any other military group that stands in a way of israel terrorysm and dictature. I also support their use of force towards israeli cowards cuz things that have been done by use of force and agression cannot be settled with talks and peaceful way. Eye for an eye,tooth for a tooth. Israeli people like to make victims of themselves,even 50 years after shit that Hitler did....but in reallity they are even worse then Hitler......
    What a GREAT POST!!! damn... And i fully agree with it..!

    +rep !!!
     

    scorpion10

    Crusader of Justice
    Jul 28, 2005
    110
    #96
    Some may think this a little harsh but i think it hit home. Maybe its what you're looking for?

    I Love My Own People, But I love the Truth More
    The White Nationalist Backlash Against Islam is a Sucker's Game
    by Michael A. Hoffman II

    Copyrigh©2006 RevisionistHistory.org

    I am getting "backlash" mail from "White Nationalists" in the US and Europe who have bought into the racist neo-con propaganda about Islam.

    The non-reproducing (i.e. self-exterminating) whites of Europe and America live for luxury and have either been neutral toward the Israeli holocaust in Palestine or have supported the Judaic dictatorship not only in Palestine but in Europe, Britain and America.

    They have impotently acquiesced with hardly a peep of protest to the jailing in Austria and Germany of revisionist scientist Germar Rudolf, historian David Irving and writer Ernst Zündel.

    Can one imagine the reaction if these three had been Islamic writers jailed for their publications in Austria and Germany? The Muslims would have rocked the walls of those jails like Joshua at Jericho.

    In Great Britain the head of the anti-immigrant British National Party, Nick Griffin, called Islam an evil religion and was exonerated by a jury. Griffin should have never been prosecuted in the first place and neither should the British government have prosecuted Abu Hamza Masri, the Muslim preacher and anti-communist combat veteran who was sentenced to prison this week for the content of his speech.

    Let Nick describe Judaism as an evil religion and see how he fares. It is interesting that he does not make such public proclamations about Judaism.

    What is it about the Koran or Muhammad that makes Islam evil? Islam still has an Old Testament resonance. The Biblical prophets still resonate with the Muslims, the sense of justice, the unwillingness to make the consumer game and sports games the supreme de facto religion, as they are in Europe.

    The white nationalist movements are today being used by the Establishment as shock troops against Islam. In the 1990s in the US, the Federal government used white nationalist assets in the bombing of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, laying the pre-9/11 groundwork for a police state.

    Contemporary white nationalists don't even have the spark to reproduce themselves. Their masonic governments in Europe have been the enemy of indigenous whites as much as they have been the enemy of the Muslims. But this is forgotten.

    Nationalist Jean-Marie Le Pen has praised mass murderer Ariel Sharon. But this too is forgotten.

    Like the U.S., Europe has become a sinkhole, and God will scourge these white nations for their corruption, usury and support for Judaism and Zionism. I love my own people, but I love the truth more.

    English journalist Robert Fisk, in a column for CounterPunch, writes: "For Muslims, the Prophet is the man who received divine words directly from God. We see our prophets as faintly historical figures, at odds with our high-tech human rights, almost cariacatures of themselves. The fact is that Muslims live their religion. We do not. They have kept their faith through innumerable historical vicissitudes. We have lost our faith...That's why we talk about 'the West versus Islam' rather than 'Christians versus Islam'--because there aren't an awful lot of Christians left in Europe. There is no way we can get round this by setting up all the other world religions and asking why we are not allowed to make fun of Muhammed."

    So what it is about white nationalism in Europe that is supposed to be appealing? That they will fight for the right to have a Muslim-free consumer paradise where banks and the Money Power predominate? Where the flesh of their women is bought and sold like meat at a butcher shop, as the Talmud likes to say about females?

    Europe was dying long before the first Muslim immigrant set foot on its hallowed soil. The whites of Europe can no longer find sufficient love in their hearts to have families of five or ten children and they mock Muslims for following God's law in this regard. The late John Tyndale of the British Nationalist Party could not fathom how or why Muslims had such large families. It shocked him. I remember him reviling a Pakistani family in Britain for having so many children. Tyndale mocked it as a "regiment of a family."

    Louis-Ferdinand Céline said that Europe will either be an example or it will be nothing. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that had Europe refused to offer special protection from criticism for Judaism, and refused to jail Rudolf, Irving and Zündel, that Muslims might have learned something from the western philosophy of "freedom of the press" and been better for it.

    But unlike most modern whites, they boil with a righteous rage at hypocrisy and the double-standard that gives the European press the freedom to insult Islam while protecting Judaism.

    Recently, Prof. Deborah Lipstadt of Emory University appeared on the Bill O'Reilly television program to urge that engineering Prof. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University be fired for writing--outside his classroom-- critical studies of the Auschwitz gas chambers. Instead of rebuking Lipstadt for her tyrannical desire to silence academics who do not subscribe to her opinions about World War II, O'Reilly replied that he would take her request to fire Prof. Butz, to the President of Northwestern!

    Had the shoe been on the other foot, and O'Reilly had urged that Emory University fire Lipstadt, there would have been a national uproar. Instead, Lipstadt can advocate a Judaic dictatorship over college campuses and the termination of a highly competent professor of engineering who has educated generations of youth, and there is nary a peep from the great white race in America. Thanks be to God the Muslims still kindle in their hearts a righteous anger against injustice like this.

    White nationalists are mostly non-Christians or nominal Christians, so Christ's Gospel will have little influence or impact on them, but for those who are Gospel-literate, let us recall that Jesus constantly took to task the Israelites for their empty racial pride.

    In the U.S., the white race is the bulwark of support for Bush's mass murder overseas. Polls show that 70% of black Americans have the intelligence to oppose the war in Iraq with the words, "Rebuild America first." The supposedly "superior" white majority that support Bush are too dense to see this truth.

    Yes, I love my own people, but I love the truth more. America and the European countries were once great nations where art, literature, freedom and sometimes even justice, flourished. Today these nations are under the bloody thumb of Freemasonry and Judaism. George W. Bush received the Catholic and Protestant fundamentalist vote in the last election in spite of the fact that he is a member of the wicked secret society known as Skull and Bones. During the 2004 campaign, when queried about it on national television by Tim Russert, he responded by saying that he could not divulge the secrets of Skull and Bones. Do we think that Muslims would be so retarded or corrupt as to vote for a man like Bush, a man beholden to a satanic masonic secret society, and do so in the name of Jesus Christ?

    Why are whites being suckered into fighting the Muslims? On behalf of the right of the Federal government to murder Vicky and Sam Weaver in Naples, Idaho and holocaust a church full of children in Waco, Texas? The right of homosexuals to marry and spread their affliction and sorrow to others? Do white nationalists think that they any longer have a British civilization to export when Elton John, the "most famous homosexual in the world" is knighted by the Queen of England and permitted to legally marry his boyfriend in front of an audience of millions?

    If King Alfred the Great or Edward I could see Britain today they would join the Muslims in their protests and demonstrations rather than support so foul and degenerate a system; a system that still manages to hypnotize British whites into believing that England remains dear "Old Blighty."

    One could relate similar accounts of betrayal and degeneracy in Holland, Spain, France, Sweden, Switzerland and much of the rest of Europe.

    The Europeans want to be left alone to gamble, screw and consume themselves into oblivion while Germany supplies nuclear-powered submarines to the Israelis and Tony Blair sends British troops to bolster the US rape of Iraq.

    Muslims came to Britain and Europe at the invitation of the white governments there. Now that they have arrived, do not expect them to abandon their faith, their God, and their honor as Europeans have done. Do not expect them to bow low to the European golden calf. If you have a problem with Islam in Europe take it up with Prince Charles and King Juan Carlos, Laurent Fabius, Lionel Jospin, Helmut Schmidt, Harold Wilson and the rest of the masonic and Zionist traitors and fools who invited them into your nation for purposes of cheap labor.

    The Muslims of Iran in their defiance of the rabbis and their defense of the prophets have more of the old American pioneer spirit, more of the British bulldog breed, than the sports-worshipping denizens of Shylock's cheap labor colonies, formerly known as England and the United States of America.

    I love my own people, but I love the truth more.



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    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #97
    Tom said:
    I know, I'm not stupid or anything, I just find it amazing how many arabs/muslims whatever you want to be classed as resort to violence almost as their first resort. It just appears to be incredibly backwards from my pov and I can see why we're worried about hamas being in control of palestine. Nothing but trouble can come of it, the Israelis will refuse negotiation, hamas will pretend it wants talks... bla bla bla and we're back to square one.

    Just seems to be a complete lack of common sense in so many middle eastern countries its untrue. How so many people can be brainwashed into blowing themselves up.. is it me or surely the system is to blame there.. you don't see many christians, buddhists, jews etc blowing themselves up in the name of their religion. Its got to be in the education...
    Its not brainwashed.. Its called FIGHTING FOR YOUR FREEDOM, YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS etc...
     

    Slagathor

    Bedpan racing champion
    Jul 25, 2001
    22,708
    #98
    scorpion10 said:
    Some may think this a little harsh but i think it hit home. Maybe its what you're looking for?
    It's a ridiculous article. Europeans in the past didn't have families with ten children out of love; they had them because the more children they had, the bigger the guarantee was there would be somebody in the future to care for you when you got old. It was a pure selfish thing.

    Furthermore; eternal growth is impossible. Europe is already the world's most crowded continent and if everyone had 10 children this part of the world would soon sink away into a status admired by lovers of hell.

    I am repulsed by this article for its distinction policies between people of different skin colour and different religions. If we are all going to look at the world with those goggles on; we might as well reinstate slavery. No matter which race is going to be enslaved this time...
     

    scorpion10

    Crusader of Justice
    Jul 28, 2005
    110
    #99
    Out of the whole article you only understood the part about having 10 children. I know times have changed and having many children isnt possible but the whole point of me posting this thing is about the zionism and the racism that people seem to ignore.
     

    un altro alex

    Senior Member
    Jan 15, 2006
    633
    barkuss said:
    My opinion:

    If someone would occupy my country(let's say it was Palestina) with agression on basis of one book(bible or whatsoever) as Israel did...I would kill every jew on palestinian territory. So I support Hamas or any other military group that stands in a way of israel terrorysm and dictature. I also support their use of force towards israeli cowards cuz things that have been done by use of force and agression cannot be settled with talks and peaceful way. Eye for an eye,tooth for a tooth. Israeli people like to make victims of themselves,even 50 years after shit that Hitler did....but in reallity they are even worse then Hitler......
    what the bloody 'ell are you going on about. firstly, i repeat they were given the land mistakenly by Britain, who was at the time controlling it on the part of the LON (i.e. the did NOT invade it).
    secondly, it is not the israeli politicians who are being hit by the terroristic attacks, but the innocent and often poor people.
    and thirdly, how about a persercute your entire race? treat you like a dog, burn your family in an oven, or have them shot in an execution row as though they were just another piece of dirt. will you be all joyful about it?

    remember, politicians' actions often do not represent the true feelings of their people. punishing them for them is even worse.
     
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