Zdenek Grygera (40 Viewers)

Marceℓℓo

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Mar 16, 2007
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These kind of tackles are plain unnecessary,especially in friendlies.Celebrating and supporting that tackle is even more unnecessary.

All in all I agree with Red,Zdenek was decent defensively.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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He was pretty solid tonight.

Did nothing going forward, but was fine defensively.
:sergio:

He was fine defensively???? Has the definition of fine changed? Or are you high on the euphoria of that horrible tackle to see how he was like allergic to his markers, stayed like way back from them, instead of get close. Seriously, he was fine defensively?? He wasnt challenged much on his side, but whenever he was, he was too far back from his marks.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I don't think it was deliberate at all so I don't see the problem, it was just clumsy and lazy, sticking his leg out. Of course saying it was great because it was pansy boy isn't really worthwhile. I haven't seen much from Grygera to suggest he is a dirty player. Now Brazzo or Camo, different story...
 

C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
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He marked players loosely otherwise he would get beat. Plus it allowed time for some1 to come back and cover him in the event he fucks up. It was the smart and safe thing to do. Even if he was the ultimate 1 vs 1 defender, I would still prefer our fb's to wait for help before they close some1 down.

More importantly though, Madrid are hardly a threat in the air, and our defense were more comfortable absorbing cross after cross than they were squaring off against an opponent coming at them at speed while already in the box. It played towards our defensive strengths.

Grygera is a very average player though. No doubting that.
 

abejaa

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Sep 25, 2006
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Grygera sucks, but he did a great thing the tackle on Ronaldo, im always going to remember that, i think it's pretty easy to make ronaldo cry :D
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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:sergio:

He was fine defensively???? Has the definition of fine changed? Or are you high on the euphoria of that horrible tackle to see how he was like allergic to his markers, stayed like way back from them, instead of get close. Seriously, he was fine defensively?? He wasnt challenged much on his side, but whenever he was, he was too far back from his marks.
Folk don't seem to appreciate how difficult it is for a defender when he is more or less standing still.

The weakness of the 4-3-1-2 is that it is easy for teams to engineer a one on one against a full back and Drenthe got space to start running at Grygera.

Grygera did what I consider the best option in that situation: slow the player down and wait for the right time to challenge or just block the cross.

Grygera couldn't step higher up the pitch to get tighter because it was usually Drenthe who was coming from very deep and so it would have messed up our defensive shape.

If you dive in when a player is running at you it is very easy for that player to beat you.


Grygera, having had a poor season, is now in the same boat as Molinaro was last year. Folk are going to criticise him if he isn't great and won't praise him unless he plays a near perfect game.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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He did catch the knee... but as you can see in the clip above, the boot didn't 'stick', it slides down, which probably saved Ronaldo from a serious injury... Bad tackle either way, and no matter how much I hate Ronaldo, I can't wish injury on a football player... Thats just sad...
 

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