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After the Poulsen signing, will Secco, Blanc and cie still buy Xabi Alonso?

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Juventinho

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Nov 4, 2004
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To clear what i said for the last time because some idiots are having a field day taking it out of concept to make their dumb asses look good.

1.All what i said is that all epl players are overhyped, Wayne Rooney is not the best forward in the world for example nor Gerrard is the best midfielder in the history of the game as some has made him to be. Alonso is a very good player but he is far from being one of the best, Yaya Toure a player who went for much less than what we gonna pay for Alonso is miles better, Aquilani even though younger not as experienced as him is a lot better, i watched Roma and i watched Liverpool and at the end of the day it's my opinion and it has to be respected because i did not start making fun of any of the idiots in this thread.

2.I am not racist and if i am it will not be in the favor of Italians since i am not Italian. I am simply a Juventus fan and Italian football and yes there is a difference in traits between nationalities, not stereotyping but thats the case most of time and of course it's not a 100% rule. For example i am an Egyptian and most Egyptian players although very talented will not fit the Italian game since they can't just stick to the tactics and they are not hard workers, same to some extent with the spanish and Portuguese players, hence why Spain achieve fuck all although they have super squads. Spain cannot win UNLESS they much better than the opposition (same with Brazil) with a big difference, Italians can win with a weaker team because the players act like soldiers and not prima donnas and they do not care about putting a show. See world cup 1982 Italy vs Brazil to get exactly what i am on about. Of course every rule has it's exception.

3.We do not need a central midfielder as much as we need a left winger and a defender and squad players, we are not chelsea and we do not have gazzilions to spend so i'd rather spend on someone needed more than Xabi. The only case we should go for an expensive player is if a super player is available and showing interest in Juventus.

4. I did not say that players who won stuff are not motivated i just said they are not hungry. When you play in a small team and you dream about a bigger club you will be more motivated and hungry for winning than someone who already won the CL and play for one of the biggest teams in the world. The only motivation is to remain a starter in a big team and get a better salary.

5.I also like to say that of all the Italian clubs, Juventus is the most Italian and is the best team to describe Italian football, it's a tradition. And throughout history Juve has been one of the biggest suppliers of the national team which is something all Juventini take pride in, i mean we give Inter stick for lacking Italians although they are an Italian team, thats all it is and it has nothing to do with the blood shite that some of you came up with.
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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The more we pay for him the less money the club has so we can end up getting a liverpool ammount of debt with that attitude....

I like Alonso,he's the type of player we need,experienced on the big stage, still, if he's going to cost as much as VdV then hop along Xabi.
Until you 're paying 35 million sterling a month in interest don't talk to me about a Liverpool amount of debt.;)
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
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@Juventinho:

You expect your opinion to be respected, but you won't get shit when you keep calling people idiots.

Also about number 4: Based on your assumptions, I guess we should offload Trez, Del Piero, Buffon, Camoranesi because they actually won something big and they're not hungry for trophies and they're playing for a big team for years now.
 

Juventinho

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Nov 4, 2004
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@Juventinho:

You expect your opinion to be respected, but you won't get shit when you keep calling people idiots.

Also about number 4: Based on your assumptions, I guess we should offload Trez, Del Piero, Buffon, Camoranesi because they actually won something big and they're not hungry for trophies and they're playing for a big team for years now.
It works the other way, i would question their motive if they decide to move say to Man Utd. I mean what really would DP motive be if he decide to move to Man Utd, i mean he was already in a big team, he already won everything and he should be loyal to Juve as far as that goes. Either he became shite and can't keep starting or that he will get a better salary but it will never be like someone leaving Lecce or Man City to join Juve or Real Madrid.

Edit: I got name called first, i did not start it.
 

Djabrail

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May 23, 2008
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The price is getting higher and higher thats not good..........
We are BIG JUVE, not some fucking Roma, Fiorentina or Udine..., never been,so we need BIG PLAYERS. If we are gonna pay 20 or 30 mil, who cares, it means we have those money to pay.If we want to spend such amount on one player, than it means it was the plan to spend on him. You all so worry about JUVE's money, how difficult it would be to splash some cash itc, fuck, are you MOTHER TEREZA, or do you work in JUVE's administration so you know whats going on inside.Help then, invest some money, if not than dont talk trash. We have Zanetti, we have Tiago ,we have my granny...., bullshit, are they better than De ROSSI, AQUILLANI, PIZZARO,PERROTA or GATUSSO, PIRLO, FLAMINI,AMBROSSINI, or CAMBIASSO, VIEIRA, ZANETTI, no,no,no.
 

arc

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Mar 11, 2004
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so we are trying to buy the whole liverpool team now? what is this all about "if you cant beat them, buy them?" these players we linked to makes me sick
 

S.Giovinco

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May 26, 2008
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Id Rather Camo wore it...
1. Zebina wont be preferd over Grygera, thats SURE.
2. amauri wont steal david place, on games like in the CL we will need the connection of DP and David so count him in.
3. lets see how good andrade will come back, then lets buy us a new CB ok?
4. i cant see Nedved playing most of the season, i hope we will buy someone or take seba to play most of the games.
 

S.Giovinco

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May 26, 2008
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Real. It's the reason our transfer budget is only like 20 million or so this summer. Dumb asses Hicks and Gillet refinanced the club to get funds for the new stadium but then started fighting.
our transfer budget is 60m, thats whay blanc said.
if we will sell almiron and tiago we will have something like 80m which is very good, dun wry man!
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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1. Zebina wont be preferd over Grygera, that SURE.
2. amauri wont steal david place, on games like in the CL we will need the connection of DP and David so count him in.
3. lets see how good andrade will come back, then lets buy us a new CB ok?
4. i cant see Nedved playing most of the season, i hope we will buy someone or take seba to play most of the games.
agreed except for the first oneZebina will start ahead of grygera

our transfer budget is 60m, thats whay blanc said.
if we will sell almiron and tiago we will have something like 80m which is very good, dun wry man!
you re on crack
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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our transfer budget is 60m, thats whay blanc said.
if we will sell almiron and tiago we will have something like 80m which is very good, dun wry man!
Enron talks about Pool but what you said here is also wrong, imo.
60m transfer budget includes the sales of some players.
Actually, the money we'll get from the sales of Nocerino, Blasi, Tiago (?), Almiron (?), Criscito (?), half of Lanzafame and maybe 1 or 2 more players make ~50% of our transfer budget.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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I am glad that that cvnt isn't coming, and those who say they prefer him over Aqui need to get their heads checked.
u need to get ur head checked.... if we lose out on xabi do u really think that we have 0.000000000000001% chance to get aquilani?

and this is why i hate our board....look how long it takes to sign amauri or how long xabi is in the media.... in the end we will see eto hamsik hleb joining inter or ac or real and we r going for a new almiron
I really don't care if we don't get Aqui, probably we won't and not because of our board but instead Aqui himself as he is Romanista to the core, i am just glad that Alonso cvnt isn't coming. And about the board i thought the moaning would have been over already, they achieved their objectives for two years in a row and i like the team spirit and the team we have, i don't care if they get no one, i am sure they know what they are doing.
u don't care if we get noone? and why do u don't want xabi here?

and what has our board achived? oh i forgot the capture of almiron and tiago....:melayyanandmessi:
ok.................... :smoke:

they have reached there objective for two years so no what???i mean u are'nt trying to convince us that we dont need players cos if thats the case i guessu r wasting yr time and it alsomeans u have'nt seen this juventus squad this year. its true we have'nt lost to any of our main rivals apart from viola but the rest of the games there were some terrible preformances.

xabi is a cunt?!?!? woooooooooow ok u tellme who we can get instead of him, provided he is as good or better than him and with adecent price and i'd let this slip seriously. xabi is the kindof player we need at juventus, specially with his sharp sight and ability to deliver decent balls to our forwards hence increasing out domination from the centre up to the strikers.

aqua is great but i doubt that juventus can pull that transfer and then reinforce the remaing positions. so i await yr answer with realisitc mid fielders who r better than xabi or on par.
It's simple, most of the people here were moaning about the board (As usual, even during Capello and Moggi) which shows the low level of the iq's around here. I remember this idiot who used to say that we won't even make it to the Champions League and the rest were following him, but at the end of the day i was right and we got to the CL and we did a great season so these people did their job right.

I also remember the same idiot followed by the same bunch of feck tards complaining about Sissoko and that he is medicore, once again they were shown up.

And about Xabi i can't even remember when did a spaniard achieve anything in Serie A last time, not to mention that C.Zanetti is 10000 times the player Alonso will ever be but Alonso plays in England for Liverpool so the press must make him to be a super player although he's not at all.

I prefer Giovinco to start next year instead of buying Kaka even if we can because thats what Juve is all about, having a hard working home bred squad instead of a bunch of mercenaries, see Capello for more details. If i we get someone expencive i just hope it's someone young who is not playing for a big club already, someone who will become a Juventino. I like Diego or Aqui and of course if it's an Italian player it would be much better. Oh and i take someone like Lucho Gonzalez any day of the week, but Lampard, Xabi, or whoever that falls in the same category, no thanks i'd prefer we remain as we are.
@Juventinho:

You expect your opinion to be respected, but you won't get shit when you keep calling people idiots.
Edit: I got name called first, i did not start it.
Just to clear up your last statement...from the very first post that you had in this thread.

You can carry on now,without the insults.
 

S.Giovinco

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May 26, 2008
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im sure i heard blanc saying our transfar budget will be 60, maybe it was on the damn hole C4?
what makes u think that we got 20m?
we spent 22m on amauri, we are about to spend 18 on alonso which is 40 by itself, and its not the end!

y i say 22 on amauri? cuz i said 60 without selling players, and 15 is when u include nocerino sale.

i still remember the num 60.

agreed except for the first oneZebina will start ahead of grygera
did u see grygera against inter or milan?!
or against genoa?

he was ON FIRE.
he will be preferd over zebina, who plays more on the hospital then on the grass
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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im sure i heard blanc saying our transfar budget will be 60, maybe it was on the damn hole C4?
what makes u think that we got 20m?
we spent 22m on amauri, we are about to spend 18 on alonso which is 40 by itself, and its not the end!

y i say 22 on amauri? cuz i said 60 without selling players, and 15 is when u include nocerino sale.

i still remember the num 60.
If he said that our transfer budget is 60m euro it means that we can/will spend 60 mil on players.
It doesn't mean that we have 60m cash and we'll add more to that by selling our players.
We probably have some 30m cash and the other 30 will be gained by selling some of our players.



We payed 22.8 for Amauri, we'll pay (lets say) 20m for Alonso, 7m for Grosso, 3 or 4 mil to get back De Ceglie and we're left with some 5 or 6 mil that we can keep or use to buy some cheap player.

Of the 22.8 for Amauri, 12 were cash money while the other 10.8 are from the sales of Nocerino and Lanzafame. Of the 20m for Alonso, none may be cash money but we'll get the 20m by selling Almiron, Tiago and someone else.
I hope you get the point.

Of course, if we sell someone we didn't want to sell previously, our transfer budget will be bigger and we can also buy some other player(s) .
 

Sarah

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Sep 26, 2007
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4. I did not say that players who won stuff are not motivated i just said they are not hungry. When you play in a small team and you dream about a bigger club you will be more motivated and hungry for winning than someone who already won the CL and play for one of the biggest teams in the world. The only motivation is to remain a starter in a big team and get a better salary.
Saying that players have nothing to play for once they win one trophy doesn't make sense though. Xabi hasn't won a league title. The CL is not the end all be all you know. Why has Liverpool been striving for years to win the league then? Because there are other trophies out there. Oh I also seriously doubt he is going to be getting that much higher of a salary once he comes here. You act like that is the only reason in which he is coming here. I'm sure Xabi could care less about the half million difference in his pay check because when you have money adding just a little more really doesn't matter.

How did you feel about Momo's signing? He has won a couple of trophies himself with Valencia and he seemed to be trying real hard so far this season. It is just a naive generalization to put that blanket statement on every player.

Oh and he is not better than Aquilani. I follow Aquilani and I am a big fan of him in general. I just don't know how you can make that statement. Aquilani has the technical ability but he needs more development before he is better than Xabi, imo. We also have a 1% chance of signing him so we shouldn't be turning down other players for him.

You are entitled to your opinion. I respect that but this is a forum. People are allowed to disagree with you especially when you start out by saying "I am glad that that cvnt isn't coming, and those who say they prefer him over Aqui need to get their heads checked."

With that said, I doubt we will get Xabi and if we are its not happening until July after the Euros.
 
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