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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Higgy should have started. They needed someone physical and he would have caused some problems in that box.

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to be frank higgy is quite easy to tackle, those huge icelandic defenders were too stronk.

messi should have scored the penalty, but he choked, and that's about it.
 

piotrr

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Sep 13, 2011
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Trolling, please. England haven't done better than Poland in recent years. So I don't understand why you think you are in a position to rate them higher than Poland.
Iceland topped Croatia, Turkey and Ukraine, and beat England at the EURO's :tup:

England topped Slovenia, Slovakia and Scotland :howler:

Poland topped Denmark, Romania and Montenegro, and did better than England at the EURO's

English football fans :lol:

I do know what it means, but I also know you haven't got a clue about the level of football of other countries. As you perfectly demonstrated by claiming Poland shouldn't be ranked above England.
You claimed Poland shouldn't be ranked above England. Utter nonsense.
How is it debatable? England haven't delivered any results that justify a seed above Poland.
It might be debatable, but you are yet to provide any solid argument to this why Poland shouldn't be ranked ahead of England. The above is nonsense; results the last 36 years? :howler:

And yes, Poland's place is sensible. Whether they should be 8, 10 or 12 is a minor detail. But they should be ahead of England. No doubt.
What? This isn't about 'deserve'. It's the ranking. They're simply ranked high enough.

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I think England would beat Poland if they played tomorrow. Do I think they deserve to be ranked higher? No. Both Poland and England have been doing good, but (Imo) Poland did better if we look at stats.
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Was reading yesterday but wasn't able to post. Glad my boy @Maddy had my back (almost liek in Mafia). So when you're in Warsaw? :D


Straw man.

You know what that means, and you know better than that.

England should not be a 1st seed. Nor should Poland.
Yes. But we have to look back some ways, whether that's a couple of years or many more than that. The Champions League seeding, for instance, looks back at around five years of previous. And international tournaments are less frequent.

I'd hope, @Hængebøffer, that you can accept there is at least a debatable position about whether or not England should rank above Poland. Having said that, what started this, was my suggestion that Poland shouldn't have ranked above England, Spain, Columbia and Uruguay. And the implication being that a better ranking system would have resulted in more balanced groups. It was Maddy that decided to make this all about England.

P.S. If there are any Poles on here, I wish you all the best for the tournament. This looks like I'm bashing your lot. Even though they did game the rankings system to get a favourable seed.
It's not Poland's fault how FIFA prepares that retarded ranking, giving too much credit for the meaningless friendlies. FIFA set the rules and we used them in a clever way. It's not like we got there by accident, we had a very strong Qualifiers campaign, with a record breaking Lewandowski.

I'd admit that looking just at the quality of teams we should probably be somewhere in the second pot, but it's not how it works.



And this cracked me up :lol::baus:

Poland have only reached the knockout rounds of a major tournament once in 36 years. In that same period, England's qualification to the KO stages is in double figures.

There are other takes on this. Some which will favour my position and some which will favour yours. So it's debatable. I am not claiming England should outrank Brazil here.

Instead, let me ask you a question. Should Poland be ranked at #8 in the World?
 

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