Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (23 Viewers)

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AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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Barcelona are willing to let go Fabregas. If we can strike a deal like how Milan strike the Zlatan deal with them it would be awesome.
 

AOD4

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If there are no suitors in PL, I think we can snare him if we can afford the wage. The league is weak but nevertheless it guarantees him a winning medal. He is bound to win at least 2 Serie A tittles with us and guaranteed CL participation.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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the problem with italian (and english) young players, when you compare them with german and spanish is the international experience. italians dont trust their young players in the EL, CL, WC and EURO, while you can see young players in german and spanish clubs being key players in these competitions. for example, Immobile, who we are considering our future top striker (and rightfully so) has yet to play his 1st match in CL, EL, or WC, EURO and he is 24 years old. in comparation, Kroos (same age) has already player 50! international matches for Bayern/Leverkusen, including 2 CL finals, and has an EURO and a WC with the national team behind him. Ogbonna who was considered a hot prospect at CB had just 2 serie a seasons behind him and no international experience at all before joining us. im affraid the same fate is awaiting other top talentslike Berardi, Murru, Rugani, Scuffet etc. if you take Verratti, he has 2 CL seasons behind him already, if he stayed in the Serie A, he wouldnt probably have a single match in the CL/EL

my point is, Italy has a lot of promising and talented youngsters, but they are not developing them in the correct way. you cant put a player in serie b or lower table serie a teams till hes 25 and then expect him to shine and deliver at the highest stage. it just doesent work like that...
I'm no experd on the matter, but this makes a lot of sense to me. Good post :tup:
 
Jul 20, 2012
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----------------Buffon------------
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Licht--------Barz------Chiellini-----Asamoah
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----Vidal------Pirlo/Marchisio-----Pogba
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--Sanchez-----Llorente/Tevez-------Nani

Lets do this shit!

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----------------Buffon------------
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Licht--------Barz------Chiellini-----Asamoah
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----------Vidal-----------Pogba
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--Sanchez--------Tevez-------------Nani
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----------------Llorente
 

Xperd

'Toli Throater
Jun 1, 2012
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If there are no suitors in PL, I think we can snare him if we can afford the wage. The league is weak but nevertheless it guarantees him a winning medal. He is bound to win at least 2 Serie A tittles with us and guaranteed CL participation.
ofcourse there will be.He was brilliant in the pl afterall.
Otherwise its either psg and monaco who'll offer him massive wages.
Let us ask ourselves this.Whats so attractive about playing for juve or in serie a for a foreign star player right now.
We are nowhere near cl contenders,we dont offer humongous wages and most importantly the league is in its worst state.Hardly any incentive for a top top player to play in serie a.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Although it's not necessarily that Italian teams don't trust youngsters. I think the Italian media tends to overhype players (like any other country's sport media I guess). We have Pogba as a starter, and he pushed out one of our own products in Marchisio. Inter used Balotelli in Europe as well as in the league while he was a teenager and I wouldn't be surprised to see Roma giving Dodo and Ljajic game time as starters in the Champions League next year. In the face of genuine talent Serie A teams will happily give minutes to young players. However when Giovinco is hyped as the next Del Piero and all the rest of it we are led to believe that he will explode and tend to blame other factors for him failing to reach that level.

The current situation in Serie A will be interesting to follow as teams like Milan and Inter are forced to rebuild through investing in youth. Mabye in a couple of years this will have paid off for them. That would make the league stronger, and in the meantime (and additionally if they were to fail) we can laugh at them. It's win-win :tup:
 

Daddi

Cuadrado is juan hell of a derby king!
Oct 27, 2004
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Buffon
Santon barzagli chiellini de sciglio
Vidal pirlo pogba
Berardi immobile tevez

Yaaaay youth!

Zaza, ogbonna, scuffet etc rotate and learn :)
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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People are usually hesitant when it comes to us changing formation and buying attackers. The reason being, 'Vidal/Pogba would be limited. Vidal is our best attacker'

And yeah, they would be limited. But can't people now see that we shouldn't be relying on our b2b midfielders to carry our attack? They also have to do numerous other things and not wanting to change to a formation such as 4-2-3-1 because the new ATTACKERS will limit our MIDFIELDERS ability to attack is such a weak, provincial mentality.

As is people saying no to the likes of Sanchez then saying 'Valencia would be a good purchase, he is good at defending' This is awful. Where do we draw the line? Why is it so wrong to buy attackers based primarily on their attacking abilities? You'd think that to succeed, your entire team had to be relentless, brainless workhorses going by some peoples logic on here.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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People are usually hesitant when it comes to us changing formation and buying attackers. The reason being, 'Vidal/Pogba would be limited. Vidal is our best attacker'

And yeah, they would be limited. But can't people now see that we shouldn't be relying on our b2b midfielders to carry our attack? They also have to do numerous other things and not wanting to change to a formation such as 4-2-3-1 because the new ATTACKERS will limit our MIDFIELDERS ability to attack is such a weak, provincial mentality.

As is people saying no to the likes of Sanchez then saying 'Valencia would be a good purchase, he is good at defending' This is awful. Where do we draw the line? Why is it so wrong to buy attackers based primarily on their attacking abilities? You'd think that to succeed, your entire team had to be relentless, brainless workhorses going by some peoples logic on here.
Show this to Zach please.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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The reason people are so focused on the players defensive abilities because that is what Conte wants. Do you see how far everyone drops back when the other team has the ball? All 11 players are in their own half. You would think it would be okay to defend with 5 men but Conte needs the whole team because everyone is so fucking deadly.
 

dann10

Ho visto Del Piero
Aug 26, 2008
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Santon would actually be a decent buy.

Gigi

licht/santon barz/bonucci chiellini/ogbonna new lb/asa?

vidal pirlo/marchisio pogba/asa

sanchez/isla? llorente/immobile tevez/gio

*start marchisio ahead of pirlo in CL games
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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That mentality will never work in Europe unless we mould our team into a legitimate, counter attacking force. But atm we sit back and pose no threat at times. Which means we're essentially playing a game of attack vs defence for long periods.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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The reason people are so focused on the players defensive abilities because that is what Conte wants. Do you see how far everyone drops back when the other team has the ball? All 11 players are in their own half. You would think it would be okay to defend with 5 men but Conte needs the whole team because everyone is so $#@!ing deadly.
Wingers don't have to actually be able to defend inside their own box, clear with flying headers, make sliding tackles, etc.

They just have to hold space and run. You can play defense with any wingers. Mourinho once had Eto'o at LB and he was effective simply because he ran and held space.
 
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