Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (34 Viewers)
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Some have said that Marchisio's transfer value is 25-30m.
Vucinic is around 15m (according to some sources)
Matri & Quags are probably worth less than 10m each. Giovinco worth similar to Matri & Quags.
Marchisio sale is easy as he is in demand and get you 25-30m straight away. Higuain and Jovetic are going to cost us anywhere between 45-60m depending on final negotiated prices.
I think Marotta first needs to focus on selling players. If someone wants to pay 15m for Vucinic, take it. I would also sell BOTH Matri & Quags.
If Marotta can sell Melo, Matri, Quags, and Vucinic - you should be able to get anywhere between 35-40m for those - bringing the net spend to ~20m. Melo was not part of the squad and you lose 3 forwards (4 if you include Bendtner who will be gone). Llorente, Higuain, Jovetic and Giovinco would be the 4 forwards (2 support strikers and 2 center forwards). Bring in one of Gabbiadini, Boakye or Beltrame as your 5th forward.
Under the Lippi/Capello days, Juve squad only had 4 strikers + 1 primavera or youngster. But the strikers were quality (Trez, Ibra, Del Piero, Mutu for instance).
If I really went nuts I would sell Giovinco as well and have a complete overhaul and have 4 strikers: Jovetic, Tevez, Higuain, Llorente = IN 60-70m. Giovinco, Vucinic, Matri, Quags, Melo = 50m.
Hard to do though.
Vucinic is around 15m (according to some sources)
Matri & Quags are probably worth less than 10m each. Giovinco worth similar to Matri & Quags.
Marchisio sale is easy as he is in demand and get you 25-30m straight away. Higuain and Jovetic are going to cost us anywhere between 45-60m depending on final negotiated prices.
I think Marotta first needs to focus on selling players. If someone wants to pay 15m for Vucinic, take it. I would also sell BOTH Matri & Quags.
If Marotta can sell Melo, Matri, Quags, and Vucinic - you should be able to get anywhere between 35-40m for those - bringing the net spend to ~20m. Melo was not part of the squad and you lose 3 forwards (4 if you include Bendtner who will be gone). Llorente, Higuain, Jovetic and Giovinco would be the 4 forwards (2 support strikers and 2 center forwards). Bring in one of Gabbiadini, Boakye or Beltrame as your 5th forward.
Under the Lippi/Capello days, Juve squad only had 4 strikers + 1 primavera or youngster. But the strikers were quality (Trez, Ibra, Del Piero, Mutu for instance).
If I really went nuts I would sell Giovinco as well and have a complete overhaul and have 4 strikers: Jovetic, Tevez, Higuain, Llorente = IN 60-70m. Giovinco, Vucinic, Matri, Quags, Melo = 50m.
Hard to do though.
Selling Marchisio for 30M well Marchisio is definitely a good player who fights for the team and dont stop running BUT 30M is a big offer...
In that case I think we should sell him
In Jovetic 25M Higuain 25M Ogbonna 12M
Out Marchisio 30 Matri 10 Quag 12 Melo 7M (I`d say we should sell Giovinco but we all know Conte wouldnt do it...)
Total Sum 62-52=10M spending
sign a midfielder to enforce our mid, someone like Hernanes who I believe would be available for around 20M (he could also play the Pirlo role when needed). I wouldnt even object of getting Melo back to play a sub for Vidal Pogba and Pirlo as I think he is really underrated
Total Spending 10M-30M
(Asamoah and Isla would cancel each other with the fee as we should not complete the Isla option (if it is an option and not a mandatory))
In that case I think we should sell him
In Jovetic 25M Higuain 25M Ogbonna 12M
Out Marchisio 30 Matri 10 Quag 12 Melo 7M (I`d say we should sell Giovinco but we all know Conte wouldnt do it...)
Total Sum 62-52=10M spending
sign a midfielder to enforce our mid, someone like Hernanes who I believe would be available for around 20M (he could also play the Pirlo role when needed). I wouldnt even object of getting Melo back to play a sub for Vidal Pogba and Pirlo as I think he is really underrated
Total Spending 10M-30M
(Asamoah and Isla would cancel each other with the fee as we should not complete the Isla option (if it is an option and not a mandatory))
Come on now. Is this the first time people have been exposed to the Italian sports press? Of course they'll run the "Marchisio to be sold" story because that's the most controversial one they can come up with. He may not be the best midfielder in the world but he's an integral part of our midfield and Juventino all the way through - that makes it a story that sells papers to mongoloids.
I don't like when media is forcing a player out. Thats the thing with Higuain in Madrid, the media does not like him, and thats why he intends to leave. Anyway, I would sell Casper if both Jojo and Pipita will arrive, but it would be a great shame, cuz Marchisio is such a Juventini, and we shoud love him really.
But who wants them?
People here talk as if every player we own, is wanted.
Just look at how it went with Iaquinta/Toni/Amauri/...
No one wanted them and we all needed to let them go for free, or for cheap.
It's easy to say seel him for 10MEuro or sell him for 8Meuro, but it's also a question of temas being interested in them.
For example Melo, he has his reputation against him.
De Ceglie, he didn't play for two seasons on a regular base, who wants to take the risk to pay much for him, every team knows he isn't needed here, so why the hell pay much for the guy??
Ziegler, where has he been? has he played much? Not needed so why pay much? etc.
People should really stop with thinking that all out players are wanted and thus, that we will easily receive tranfer fee's for them that cross the 10MEuro (like some say about Quag or Matri).
A player that is wanted by other teams, yes, a player we want to get rid of, no.
People here talk as if every player we own, is wanted.
Just look at how it went with Iaquinta/Toni/Amauri/...
No one wanted them and we all needed to let them go for free, or for cheap.
It's easy to say seel him for 10MEuro or sell him for 8Meuro, but it's also a question of temas being interested in them.
For example Melo, he has his reputation against him.
De Ceglie, he didn't play for two seasons on a regular base, who wants to take the risk to pay much for him, every team knows he isn't needed here, so why the hell pay much for the guy??
Ziegler, where has he been? has he played much? Not needed so why pay much? etc.
People should really stop with thinking that all out players are wanted and thus, that we will easily receive tranfer fee's for them that cross the 10MEuro (like some say about Quag or Matri).
A player that is wanted by other teams, yes, a player we want to get rid of, no.
I'm talking about 3 players here Ches, 10:3= 3,33mill each. It's not like we are trying to sell Rubinho here.
Melo, has his reputation against him? Plenty of player who have a rep against them.
De Ciegle was decent every time he played for us, not great but we should be able to offload him for 3/4million.
Ziegler we can agree on, but i'm sure we could sell him.
Oh and about Amauri and Iaquinta, plently of teams interested and Iaquinta even refused some of them, can't compare those with the 3 i mentioned. amauri and Iaquinta had amazing salaries thx to Secco while Melo,PDC and ziegler earn way way less.
Melo, has his reputation against him? Plenty of player who have a rep against them.
De Ciegle was decent every time he played for us, not great but we should be able to offload him for 3/4million.
Ziegler we can agree on, but i'm sure we could sell him.
Oh and about Amauri and Iaquinta, plently of teams interested and Iaquinta even refused some of them, can't compare those with the 3 i mentioned. amauri and Iaquinta had amazing salaries thx to Secco while Melo,PDC and ziegler earn way way less.
Wages + fee is the problem
De ceglie will not be sold for 3-4 million, and if he is then it would mean very good business. But I do think Ches is very right, all though I rather have that he isn't right. But selling players in current financial state of Serie A is barely impossible.
Many clubs in italy barely have money to spend and I don't think any foreign club is even considering him or other likes. Even fiorentina wanted Matri last year but they pulled back the moment they heard matri's wages.
De ceglie will not be sold for 3-4 million, and if he is then it would mean very good business. But I do think Ches is very right, all though I rather have that he isn't right. But selling players in current financial state of Serie A is barely impossible.
Many clubs in italy barely have money to spend and I don't think any foreign club is even considering him or other likes. Even fiorentina wanted Matri last year but they pulled back the moment they heard matri's wages.
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