No need for racist chants, se saltelli muore balotelli is funny and not inappropriate.
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to judge on the basis of race yes... it doesnt necessarily entail superiority or inferiority its just the perception of someone as largely different and to have different emotional dispositions towards that someone. I must admit i am pretty lenient with my definition of Racism.
Let me give an example, My moral principle tells me that I should value all human life equally and yet I find myself more moved (my moral sense and general emotions of sympathy and altruism) when the victim of a tragedy is a family member than when its a friend, than when its a guy from the same neighbourhood, than when its a guy from Egypt than when its an Arab, than when its an American than when its a European than when its an African or an Asian. Its not something I control although I try to consciously make myself feel equally bad about all tragedies because of that moral principle that I consciously adhere to. Without that conscious effort I am completely indifferent to the majority of these groups well being or destruction.
No matter how much humanitarian you are, you cant have your passions stirred as the moral principles you intellectually hold tells you. Your moral sense acts more instinctively and naturally makes you move more for your own people than for others etc.
My moral sense moved more to Sandy than to the Tsunami, the whole arab world moves more for the palestinian tragedies than for what happens in Sudan. My point is that our moral sense's natural behaviour does not value people as equal (within and without races) and this will always underlie racism, sexism etc.
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to judge on the basis of race yes... it doesnt necessarily entail superiority or inferiority its just the perception of someone as largely different and to have different emotional dispositions towards that someone. I must admit i am pretty lenient with my definition of Racism.
Let me give an example, My moral principle tells me that I should value all human life equally and yet I find myself more moved (my moral sense and general emotions of sympathy and altruism) when the victim of a tragedy is a family member than when its a friend, than when its a guy from the same neighbourhood, than when its a guy from Egypt than when its an Arab, than when its an American than when its a European than when its an African or an Asian. Its not something I control although I try to consciously make myself feel equally bad about all tragedies because of that moral principle that I consciously adhere to. Without that conscious effort I am completely indifferent to the majority of these groups well being or destruction.
No matter how much humanitarian you are, you cant have your passions stirred as the moral principles you intellectually hold tells you. Your moral sense acts more instinctively and naturally makes you move more for your own people than for others etc.
My moral sense moved more to Sandy than to the Tsunami, the whole arab world moves more for the palestinian tragedies than for what happens in Sudan. My point is that our moral sense's natural behaviour does not value people as equal (within and without races) and this will always underlie racism, sexism etc.
Let me give an example, My moral principle tells me that I should value all human life equally and yet I find myself more moved (my moral sense and general emotions of sympathy and altruism) when the victim of a tragedy is a family member than when its a friend, than when its a guy from the same neighbourhood, than when its a guy from Egypt than when its an Arab, than when its an American than when its a European than when its an African or an Asian. Its not something I control although I try to consciously make myself feel equally bad about all tragedies because of that moral principle that I consciously adhere to. Without that conscious effort I am completely indifferent to the majority of these groups well being or destruction.
No matter how much humanitarian you are, you cant have your passions stirred as the moral principles you intellectually hold tells you. Your moral sense acts more instinctively and naturally makes you move more for your own people than for others etc.
My moral sense moved more to Sandy than to the Tsunami, the whole arab world moves more for the palestinian tragedies than for what happens in Sudan. My point is that our moral sense's natural behaviour does not value people as equal (within and without races) and this will always underlie racism, sexism etc.
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to judge on the basis of race yes... it doesnt necessarily entail superiority or inferiority its just the perception of someone as largely different and to have different emotional dispositions towards that someone. I must admit i am pretty lenient with my definition of Racism.
Let me give an example, My moral principle tells me that I should value all human life equally and yet I find myself more moved (my moral sense and general emotions of sympathy and altruism) when the victim of a tragedy is a family member than when its a friend, than when its a guy from the same neighbourhood, than when its a guy from Egypt than when its an Arab, than when its an American than when its a European than when its an African or an Asian. Its not something I control although I try to consciously make myself feel equally bad about all tragedies because of that moral principle that I consciously adhere to. Without that conscious effort I am completely indifferent to the majority of these groups well being or destruction.
No matter how much humanitarian you are, you cant have your passions stirred as the moral principles you intellectually hold tells you. Your moral sense acts more instinctively and naturally makes you move more for your own people than for others etc.
My moral sense moved more to Sandy than to the Tsunami, the whole arab world moves more for the palestinian tragedies than for what happens in Sudan. My point is that our moral sense's natural behaviour does not value people as equal (within and without races) and this will always underlie racism, sexism etc.
I do not disagree with what you wrote, but I don't see a single argument to why it's not something you just as well could have learned thru your upbringing as something that lies within the genes of your forefather.
I see racism as a learned behavior and not a natural instinct.
"In a paper that will be published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, Eva Telzer of UCLA and three other researchers report that they’ve performed these amygdala studies—which had previously been done on adults—on children. And they found something interesting: the racial sensitivity of the amygdala doesn’t kick in until around age 14."
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"I’m not a blank slater; I don’t believe that we’re born innocent, and only develop a dark side after bad tendencies are engrained by evil capitalists, or evil patriarchs, or evil warmongers, or evil whatevers. I think that, though we’re not naturally racist, we’re naturally “groupist.” Evolution seems to have inclined us to readily define whole groups of people as the enemy, after which we can find their suffering, even death, very easy to countenance and even facilitate."
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"It’s in this sense that race is a “social construct.” It’s not a category that’s inherently correlated with our patterns of fear or mistrust or hatred, though, obviously, it can become one. So it’s within our power to construct a society in which race isn’t a meaningful construct."
from http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/new-evidence-that-racism-isnt-natural/ and http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/new-evidence-that-racism-isnt-natural/263785/
The above pretty much describes my view on racism. tho im open to the idea that this conversation is a false dilemma.
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go out and play with yo momma. the grown-ups are talking
I see racism as a learned behavior and not a natural instinct.
"In a paper that will be published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, Eva Telzer of UCLA and three other researchers report that they’ve performed these amygdala studies—which had previously been done on adults—on children. And they found something interesting: the racial sensitivity of the amygdala doesn’t kick in until around age 14."
and
"I’m not a blank slater; I don’t believe that we’re born innocent, and only develop a dark side after bad tendencies are engrained by evil capitalists, or evil patriarchs, or evil warmongers, or evil whatevers. I think that, though we’re not naturally racist, we’re naturally “groupist.” Evolution seems to have inclined us to readily define whole groups of people as the enemy, after which we can find their suffering, even death, very easy to countenance and even facilitate."
and
"It’s in this sense that race is a “social construct.” It’s not a category that’s inherently correlated with our patterns of fear or mistrust or hatred, though, obviously, it can become one. So it’s within our power to construct a society in which race isn’t a meaningful construct."
from http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/new-evidence-that-racism-isnt-natural/ and http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/new-evidence-that-racism-isnt-natural/263785/
The above pretty much describes my view on racism. tho im open to the idea that this conversation is a false dilemma.
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go out and play with yo momma. the grown-ups are talking
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