Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (103 Viewers)

[baggio]

It's stupid to compare guys who have spent far differing times at a club anyway. That's without even considering that Moggi was the best in that kind of role, in the top bracket.

True. Not expecting the best, but at least someone who knows their job.

 

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[Nzoric]

True. Not expecting the best, but at least someone who knows their job.

Im interested, what has Marotta done wrong in this mercato so far?

 

[baggio]

New Stadium, huge fanbase, especially in the United States. It's no surprise, really

It isn't. One good season, I expect to see us jump a couple of spots closer to where we belong.

 

[baggio]

Im interested, what has Marotta done wrong in this mercato so far?

Well I hear he's on the verge of buying Rossi for 25m plus Melo for starters. And this isn't about this season alone, its his overall job so far. He's got to have a near perfect mercato, to undo last season's catastrophe.

 

[Albo]

Im interested, what has Marotta done wrong in this mercato so far?

If he will buy Rossi for more than 25 mln E would be stiupid .
25 mln E + Melo it's something wich i can't even think about it , it would be worst than all Seccos transfers .

 

[IrishZebra]

So he's shit by virtue of something he has yet to do

 

[Nzoric]

If he will buy Rossi for more than 25 mln E would be stiupid .
25 mln E + Melo it's something wich i can't even think about it , it would be worst than all Seccos transfers .

Other than that he has done a pretty good job at fixing our fullback situation, is working to fix the LW problem and has reinforced the midfield with some smart moves. He also retrieved Ekdal and brought 3 promising talents to the club. And the mercato isn't even over yet.

 

[Emmet]

25m + Melo for Rossi would be fucking criminal. spend the 25m on a good central midfielder or LW.

 

[Nzoric]

25m + Melo for Rossi would be fucking criminal. spend the 25m on a good central midfielder or LW.

And have Quags + Matri up front? They couldn't dribble past an opponent if he was in a coma.

 

[Emmet]

Quag of last season was beating defenders easily, and he really didn't need to, he was scoring goals from every angle for us. as for dribbling, thats what Krasic and probably Bastos will be for.

 

[IrishZebra]

We were in the red this season as a consequence of the last. WTF are you on? It is signings like Martinez and Bonucci that don't sell merchandise or perform on the pitch thats a large reason for where we are. Out of Europe, and dumping on 7th place as we speak. I'm talking about right now, and trust me, I don't know about signing Kaka, but I sure as hell know Motta wouldn't be here on loan. Fuck yeah. Marrotta has name dropped every body from Benzema to Higuain to Pastore, and Aguero. Superstars don't fear a lack of CL one season if they are paid well and see a project in place. It's the same reason coaches have rejected us. Not because of our lack of European participation, but more because we don't have clear ideas going forward.
What is this Marrotta's first year in this role bs that he needs time to settle against Moggi's 12? And if that's the fucking case, he had no right buying 12 new players for the team in his first year without understanding his environment. And maybe you don't want to compare the two, fair enough, different eras. But if you think their working conditions for this are worlds apart. You couldn't be further from the truth. This idiot is being spoon fed all the way to the bank, while we have fans in Dublin thinking he's a balding hero.

I'm on too much caffeine at this moment in time

Martinez has played 14 times for us, I wonder how may were starts. I believe it's unfair to judge him, Bonnucci I don't like, but I also think it's premature to write him off, Giorgio wasn't a superstar when we signed him, he was coming off 2 very good seasons, only one at a 'big' club.

Marrotta is our sporting director, DELNERI was our manager, I think you are confusing the two. I also think you lack an understanding of how a footbal clubs work in its transfers. The SD is 100% in control, he works in conjunction with the presidency, other directors and coaches. Had we signed Deschamps do you think we would have bought those 12 players? Do you honestly think that Delneri didn't pick a large number of those players?

This entire anti-marrota vitriol is being fueled by nostalgia and ignorance rather than any actual real term groundings. At least give him the 11/12 season an judge him as a whole then.


I mean it's not as if retarded hair-trigger reactions have got us where we are right now...

 

[Nzoric]

Quag of last season was beating defenders easily, and he really didn't need to, he was scoring goals from every angle for us. as for dribbling, thats what Krasic and probably Bastos will be for.

My point is that neither Quag nor Matri are supportive strikers, they can't create anything on their own. I dont know about you guys, but I'd sleep better at night knowing that a big part of our chance creating doesn't rest on Del Piero's 37 year old legs every Sunday.

 

[Albertmare]

Casemiro: I love Inter and if I had to go play in Europe, the Nerazzurri would be my first choice

Die terribly you son of the slut

 

[Emmet]

Quag can create chances, he was playing his best football in the SS role, I actually dont mind Rossi signing for us, just not for the money & player thats involved.

 

[baggio]

And have Quags + Matri up front? They couldn't dribble past an opponent if he was in a coma.

Quag is a better value player than Rossi. He adds as much if not more, in defense, at less than half the price. Obviously you only followed Juve post Janaury if that's shat you think. Quag and Matri is easily a pairing that can get us a top 3 finish if our defense and mid is in order. Adding Rossi to it won't make us much better. The only difference is, we'd be 25m down and weaker in midfield.

 

[Nzoric]

Quag can create chances, he was playing his best football in the SS role, I actually dont mind Rossi signing for us, just not for the money & player thats involved.

Pepe can create chances too, but he isn't as good in that role as Rossi is.

 

[Nzoric]

Quag is a better value player than Rossi. He adds as much if not more, in defense, at less than half the price. Obviously you only followed Juve post Janaury if that's shat you think. Quag and Matri is easily a pairing that can get us a top 3 finish if our defines and mid is in order. Adding Rossi to it won't make us much better. The only difference is, we'd be 25m down and weaker in midfield.

Incredibly untrue, in my opinion. Rossi is much, much better than Quags in the SS role.

 

[Cheesio]

Juan 5mil, 2,5mil/year for 2/3 years.

 

[Nzoric]

Juan 5mil, 2,5mil/year for 2/3 years.

That would be a very good signing for us, I hope it goes through !

 

[baggio]

Marrotta is our sporting director, DELNERI was our manager, I think you are confusing the two. I also think you lack an understanding of how a footbal clubs work in its transfers. The SD is 100% in control, he works in conjunction with the presidency, other directors and coaches. Had we signed Deschamps do you think we would have bought those 12 players? Do you honestly think that Delneri didn't pick a large number of those players?
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Make up your mind. Either the SD has 100% control or Del Neri picked those players. Dude you're all over the place.


I honestly think Del Neri didn't pick a large number of those players. I honestly think Del Neri didn't want to get rid of Diego, or Trez or wanted to hire Martinez. I honestly think Del Neri didnt have a back up in mind to Di Natale and Borriello. I honestly think Del Neri didnt want his players on loan if he had particular players in mind. I honestly think Del Neri didn't hire Del Neri because he was in his comfort zone. I honestly think it wasn't Del Neri's idea to continue paying Trez's wages at another club and hire Toni while he was at it. And I honestly think it wasn't Del Neri's idea to sell half of Giovinco for 3m euros. Let's talk when you're off the caffeine