Winter Mercato 2015 (16 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Not counting his Liverpool days, for every one good game he has, five bad games follow

 

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[CrimsonianKing]

Balotelli, Osvaldo, Gomez, Torres, etc. Those players would never be anywhere close to a big club in the past.

In fact, I'm not even convinced they'd make it to the professionals. And if so, they don't seem to be talented enough to even warm the bench then. The bar is set too low in modern Football.

Balotelli being praised for something he absolutely sucks at really irritates me.

 

[zizinho]

Balotelli, Osvaldo, Gomez, Torres, etc. Those players would never be anywhere close to a big club in the past.

add Llorente there

 

[vodka]

balotelli was offered but we dismised and even took the offer offensive and as an insult GDM says that. so let's not get loose on that brainless chicken.

 

[Luftwaffles]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/gossip/

See the gossip from the Daily Star on Sunday linking Juventus in relation to Jovetic. They need cash in hand to balance FFP constraints if they are going to sign both Bony and Lacazette in the very near future. Funds from the sale of both Negredo and Jovetic would be one possibility of achieving that objective.

 

[Ocelot]

Balotelli, Osvaldo, Gomez, Torres, etc. Those players would never be anywhere close to a big club in the past.

In fact, I'm not even convinced they'd make it to the professionals. And if so, they don't seem to be talented enough to even warm the bench then. The bar is set too low in modern Football.

Balotelli being praised for something he absolutely sucks at really irritates me.

Gomez and Torres are different cases entirely. Especially Torres was a brilliant striker constistently for a few years until his move to Chelsea.

 

[pitbull]

Felipe Anderson is going to be awesome. The kid is a beast, and he is still only 21. He is driect, has pace and creativity in abundance. It is understandable that his decision making can be questionable at times, but he is still young, and can only improve. I like how he tore Inter a new A-Hole and toyed with Roma's defense on a couple of occasions today. The way he set up that first goal was sublime.

Since we have no scouts (apparently), we should be looking at making purchases like this. He has that oh so important Serie A experience, and Lazio aren't exactly our rivals. I am sure a bid of 25 million or so can get him. After all, we are likely to splurge 18 million on Pereyra and near 15 million on fucking Zaza, two vastly inferior and more limited players.

someone said that Lazio signed him for 8-9m + half of the next transfer fee if they sell him, so a 25m offer would make them only 3 or 4 million profit. unless they get FFP troubles, I don't see them selling.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Gomez and Torres are different cases entirely. Especially Torres was a brilliant striker constistently for a few years until his move to Chelsea.

"Brilliant"

 

[Ocelot]

"Brilliant"

At Atletico and Liverpool, yes, definitely.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Torres is pathetic but yes, he was brilliant once upon a time. World Class for a little while.

 

[Martin]

Torres is pathetic but yes, he was brilliant once upon a time. World Class for a little while.

yes

 

[CrimsonianKing]

At Atletico and Liverpool, yes, definitely.

Maybe if you're British and overuse and undervalue that word. Baggio was brilliant. Romário was brilliant. Torres is average with a run of 3,4 years in his whole career being above average, nothing more.

 

[Martin]

Maybe if you're British and overuse and undervalue that word. Baggio was brilliant. Romário was brilliant. Torres is average with a run of 3,4 years in his whole career being above average, nothing more.

he was world class at Atletico for a couple of years. I wouldn't call him brilliant, that's a bridge too far. but a great goal scorer

 

[Ocelot]

Maybe if you're British and overuse and undervalue that word. Baggio was brilliant. Romário was brilliant. Torres is average with a run of 3,4 years in his whole career being above average, nothing more.

If it's semantics and only players like Baggio & Romario fall into the category of brilliant for you, that's fine, call him something else. But a player of his calibre during his Liverpool days would still be wanted by a lot of big clubs, no matter if now or in the past.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

he was world class at Atletico for a couple of years. I wouldn't call him brilliant, that's a bridge too far. but a great goal scorer

Fair enough. He might have been World class for that period, also at England. But it tells you a lot how a player who isn't all that talented was one of the best in the world for some years. It's sad.

 

[Martin]

Fair enough. He might have been World class for that period, also at England. But it tells you a lot how a player who isn't all that talented was one of the best in the world for some years. It's sad.

No, it's normal. Pippo Inzaghi was one of the best in the country for many years. Being extremely good at what you do doesn't match people's idea of "talented", but it can get you places.

 

[Post Ironic]

Oliver Torres is looking like a pretty good AM for Porto this year. Only just turned 20 too. 5 goals and 3 assists in 22 games.
@Mark

Make it happen.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

If it's semantics and only players like Baggio & Romario fall into the category of brilliant for you, that's fine, call him something else. But a player of his calibre during his Liverpool days would still be wanted by a lot of big clubs, no matter if now or in the past.

His "caliber" is only good enough for this generation. He would have no place in the past.

 

[Liviu]

Well, United lost today at home 0-1 to Southampton while Mata missed 2-3 good opportunities. Any chance this will bring him close to Juve?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

No, it's normal. Pippo Inzaghi was one of the best in the country for many years. Being extremely good at what you do doesn't match people's idea of "talented", but it can get you places.

It falls again under what i said, the bar was and is set too low for players who aren't all that gifted like Torres to achieve the entitlement of being the best around.