Winter Mercato 2015 (15 Viewers)

[Xperd]

He plays in god awful France... They have a good team, but let's not talk shit: he's there for the money. Otherwise he'd be banging in the goals as a prima punta instead of playing second fiddle to Ibrahimovic. What Cavani needs is a team like us to restore his very finest form. And we need him, but can't afford him.

Don't convince me on Sneijder. I always hated the little turd. But objectively seen he might be able to cut it at 30 years old for at least 1,5 years. Drogba was also said to be finished when he moved to Asia, he proved everyone (myself included) wrong afterwards.

It isnt any less awful than Serie A.Ofcourse he is playing for the money but there's also an incentive for him and that being competing for the CL.Its not like he traded Napoli for a random Qatari club that bears no significance in world football.Lets acknowledge the fact that he plays for a better team than Juventus and has done well in this year's CL thus far.

Also i dont get this line btw

but let's not talk shit: he's there for the money. Otherwise he'd be banging in the goals as a prima punta instead of playing second fiddle to ibrahimovic

What is that supposed to even mean ? That he is not putting much effort cos he's there only for the money ? If so,that is actually extremely stupid thinking.He is a professional who is paid to deliver as best as he can for the team.
He plays 'second fiddle' to Ibra because their team runs through Ibra.Cavani isnt been played in his preferred position and thats caused a dip in his form and performances and shot down his confidence in the process.That doesnt mean he has turned into Torres overnight tho.
Anyway the main talking point was the swap which i would consider without a second's thought and probably the only way we can afford someone of his caliber.Not that this is likely to happen anyway.

Regarding the Sneijder and Drogba comparison,you should realize Drogba isnt there at Chelsea playing week in week out albeit doing well in the opportunities he's got.Drogba's time in Turkey doesnt hold any relevance to me.
Whereas we're bringing Sneijder to start him week in week out and actually depend on him to deliver big performances,we're talking completely different circumstances here.Its hard to get an unmotivated guy who's in pre-retirement mode to do that.We're much much better of looking elsewhere,getting a more hungrier and younger player.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

Maybe we're desperate enough to break the bank? Probably a pipe dream but...

You never know. I actually said last Summer we need a proper winger/AM/SS which should be our priority because we're too thin in that department. We brought nobody and now it seems they see there's a hole in there. It seems the management don't want to lose the scudetto. Hopefully it's not a panic buy because I can't see players like Jovetic, Pastore or Mkhitaryan being available, especially with Beppe's attitude: loan + option.

The fact is brother that while they may be better players, what's the point of signing them if they're not going to stay for the long term or they're always linked to a move away? Tevez already said he isn't renewing his contract and Pogba will inevitably leave soon. Currently, you guys have the better team, but we're building for the med to long term. Juve has an old team and there are no signs showing that that's going to change.

Buffon (36) Chiellini (30) Barzagli (33) Evra (33) Lichsteiner (30) Pirlo (35) Tevez (30) - That's 7 first teamers that are over 30, with Llorente being 29

Oh, and Mancini > Allegri

Buffon? He's still too good to let go but we have Leali and are after Neto who is a decent keeper too. If both don't work out we'll go for Perin
Barzagli is replaced by Bonucci (27) already. There's also Ogbonna (26) who has been good in back 4 whenever called upon. He can replace Chiellini or play instead of Bonucci. We also have Rugani (20), probably the most promising CB along with Romagnoli in the league.
Erva? We have Asamoah (26)
Pirlo? Marchisio (29) is taking his place.
Tevez is a tough one, I'll give you that.
Llorente has been garbage this season and Morata (22) has scored as much being given much less time. He also looks better on the pitch - more lively and useful than Llorente. Morata is not a starting material yet but Allegri might be forced to play him since Llorente sucks which could turn out very well for the kid and for us n the end.

As for Mancini and Allegri - both are poor on European level and nothing to brag about.

 

[Robee]

Also i dont get this line btw



What is that supposed to even mean ? That he is not putting much effort cos he's there only for the money ? If so,that is actually extremely stupid thinking.He is a professional who is paid to deliver as best as he can for the team.
He plays 'second fiddle' to Ibra because their team runs through Ibra.Cavani isnt been played in his preferred position and thats caused a dip in his form and performances and shot down his confidence in the process.That doesnt mean he has turned into Torres overnight tho.
Anyway the main talking point was the swap which i would consider without a second's thought and probably the only way we can afford someone of his caliber.Not that this is likely to happen anyway.

I didn't mean to say any of that. It means he would play in another team in his preferred position if he could get the same amount of money elsewhere. If we could pay him 10m, he'd rush to Turin and ban in some goals like there's no tomorrow instead of wasting his talent as a pseudo-winger.

And you're talking about Drogba now, I'm talking abput him years ago, when he was in China or whatever. He was playing for the money, but came back to Galatasaray and killed it in the CL... He was the one to knock us out, not Sneijder because incidently scored that goal.

What we're bringing Sneijder for, whether sitting on our bench or starting week in, week out, is pure speculation. But it's luckily over. We've moved on from him.

 

[AngrySerb]

Nastasic, Vegetarian or Pastore. Would be great imo

 

[vodka]

oh come on, allegri is not a bad coach. as if mourinho or ancelotti would win us cl

 

[Orgut]

Mkhytaryan, very funny Di Marzio. Very funny...

Great player! One of those I highly rate!
His finishing skills needs some work but he could give us what we need on the offensive end!
less than 20M and its a bargain! definitely better than Sneijder and Shaqiri

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oh come on, allegri is not a bad coach. as if mourinho or ancelotti would win us cl

Allegri is definitely not a good coach...
Our mentality has changed and not for the good!
I remember when we beat the likes of Inter and Napoli without much trouble and I also remember us beating Roma away from home! I cant say I expect us to do so again this year...
The truth is Roma are stronger than last season while we are weaker!
The scudetto chances for us and Roma stand at 55%-45% to our favor while last season despite Roma`s great campaign stood at 90%-10%
On CL you can say we have a better campaign but you can also say we were extremely unlucky last year as that loss against Gala wouldnt have happened without that weather condition

 

[Valerio.]

LUCKLY WE MISSED 2 Bullets which could have been deadly!

Diamanti -> off to Fiorentina loan+ option to buy
Snejder -> gone Gala won't accept anything that's not his buyout clause (20m) as his agent claimed

now let's see what happens. Tough i'm sceptical we'll spend anymoney in this winter mercato.

I hope we'll dodge another bullet called Zaza. He is not Juventus quality.

 

[Robee]

Great player! One of those I highly rate!
His finishing skills needs some work but he could give us what we need on the offensive end!
less than 20M and its a bargain! definitely better than Sneijder and Shaqiri

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Allegri is definitely not a good coach...
Our mentality has changed and not for the good!
I remember when we beat the likes of Inter and Napoli without much trouble and I also remember us beating Roma away from home! I cant say I expect us to do so again this year...
The truth is Roma are stronger than last season while we are weaker!
The scudetto chances for us and Roma stand at 55%-45% to our favor while last season despite Roma`s great campaign stood at 90%-10%
On CL you can say we have a better campaign but you can also say we were extremely unlucky last year as that loss against Gala wouldnt have happened without that weather condition

The joke is of course that Dortmund will never sell him to their CL competitor and certainly not under 20 mil when they only bought him last season for 26m...

Overreacting. Under Conte we had some awful January months and we even LOST against Inter at home. So let's remain calm and judge Allegri after a full season. Money time is yet to arrive.
We only won one game last CL campaign (against Kopenhagen for fuck's sake), so those weather conditions are only a small part of the reason...

 

[j0ker]

Links to Januzaj by GdS, doubt MU wants to sell him.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Links to Januzaj by GdS, doubt MU wants to sell him.

Both him and Mkhytaryan would be

However I don't think we'll get either

 

[Ledje]

The joke is of course that Dortmund will never sell him to their CL competitor and certainly not under 20 mil when they only bought him last season for 26m...

Overreacting. Under Conte we had some awful January months and we even LOST against Inter at home. So let's remain calm and judge Allegri after a full season. Money time is yet to arrive.
We only won one game last CL campaign (against Kopenhagen for fuck's sake), so those weather conditions are only a small part of the reason...

He already played for Dortmund this CL campaign. So he can't play for us this CL.

 

[Orgut]

LUCKLY WE MISSED 2 Bullets which could have been deadly!

Diamanti -> off to Fiorentina loan+ option to buy
Snejder -> gone Gala won't accept anything that's not his buyout clause (20m) as his agent claimed

now let's see what happens. Tough i'm sceptical we'll spend anymoney in this winter mercato.

I hope we'll dodge another bullet called Zaza. He is not Juventus quality.

Actually I think you are underrating Diamanti.. I dont see him as our ideal purchase but he is not a bad player...
As for Zaza - He is ok but I agree if you look for starters he shouldnt be mentioned!

 

[jakku7]

You must be kidding me about Mkhytaryan. He is nowhere near as talented as Sneijder for example and some people here complained about Wes. Mkhytaryan hasn't scored a goal this season so far and it's very likely he won't score soon because he has the same problem as Pereyra - lousy end product. Borussia supporters keep their fingers crossed for some stupid customer who free them from counter-productive Armenian.

What is the point in spending money on another mediocre AMF, in particular that we all know that this position is crucial and should be booked only for remarkable players. I would rather risk with Vasquez or some other no-name because there is always room for development and improvement for players who come from minor clubs.

 

[Robee]

He already played for Dortmund this CL campaign. So he can't play for us this CL.

I know, but that doesn't matter, they still lose their player...

 

[CrimsonianKing]

You must be kidding me about Mkhytaryan. He is nowhere near as talented as Sneijder for example and some people here complained about Wes. Mkhytaryan hasn't scored a goal this season so far and it's very likely he won't score soon because he has the same problem as Pereyra - lousy end product. Borussia supporters keep their fingers crossed for some stupid customer who free them from counter-productive Armenian.

What is the point in spending money on another mediocre AMF, in particular that we all know that this position is crucial and should be booked only for remarkable players. I would rather risk with Vasquez or some other no-name because there is always room for development and improvement for players who come from minor clubs.

You're judging him by this season, really? Have you seen any Borussia match this season at all and how bad they are as a team?

What would you expect Tevez to do if we were the ones at the bottom of the table, losing game after game and everything was going to shit? He'd do fucking nothing too. The whole team is mentally destroyed. Don't be unreasonable.

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"We either buy a quality player or we buy nobody"
Allegri


Yeah, our mercato is over.

 

[jakku7]

You're judging him by this season, really? Have you seen any Borussia match this season at all and how bad they are as a team?

What would you expect Tevez to do if we were the ones at the bottom of the table, losing game after game and everything was going to $#@!? He'd do $#@!ing nothing too. The whole team is mentally destroyed. Don't be unreasonable.

I have been watching this team since their first Bundesliga victory under Klopp management. It's quite comfortable in Poland, where I live, because we have a lot of Bundesliga games in open TV. I saw Mkhytaryan last season as well, trust me, he is not good solution for us.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I have been watching this team since their first Bundesliga victory under Klopp management. It's quite comfortable in Poland, where I live, because we have a lot of Bundesliga games in open TV. I saw Mkhytaryan last season as well, trust me, he is not good solution for us.

We'll agree to disagree then because I think he is.

He wouldn't make top of the list of the attacking mids I'd pick for Juventus but he's somewhat affordable and much better than Sneijder. I don't know what you still see in a player that played good Football for a few years and went back to mediocrity. His last years at Inter were laughable.

 

[LiquidPLP]

You must be kidding me about Mkhytaryan. He is nowhere near as talented as Sneijder for example and some people here complained about Wes. Mkhytaryan hasn't scored a goal this season so far and it's very likely he won't score soon because he has the same problem as Pereyra - lousy end product. Borussia supporters keep their fingers crossed for some stupid customer who free them from counter-productive Armenian.

What is the point in spending money on another mediocre AMF, in particular that we all know that this position is crucial and should be booked only for remarkable players. I would rather risk with Vasquez or some other no-name because there is always room for development and improvement for players who come from minor clubs.

Last season he was good for them. Pereyra could only dream of stats the Armenian pulled off. However I'd look somewhere else if it was up to me.

 

[alexjuventino]

Gds also linking us to Praet.

 

[vodka]

jakku you are loosing the plot. i dont know what you are watchin there in poland but you missed a 100 goals Mihtariyan has scored. and if you can judge any player in bvb by this season you have no idea what is going on.