Winter Mercato 2015 (17 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

I'd rather try to sign Pastore and revive him than buy Sneijder at this point.

id even take ilicic ahead of sneijder

 

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[CrimsonianKing]

If only we'd stop throwing money out the window with average useless signings maybe we'd have enough to throw 20m, 30m on a top - or at least of much better quality - player.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

It is a mixture of both, we don't create enough clear cut chances. We take our foot off the pedal as well.

That is a coaching issue more than anything

 

[CrimsonianKing]

To think Wolfsburg signed De Bruyne for 22mil and we're paying 15m for Pereyra.

"But even if we had 22 mil, we can't afford his salary"

Now look at Pereyra's:

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I'd rather try to sign Pastore and revive him than buy Sneijder at this point.

unfortunately had we not pissed psg off with coman and tapped up rabiot, pastore might have been a viable option unfortunately to say he's not exactly quick neither but thats another matter

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To think Wolfsburg signed De Bruyne for 22mil and we're paying 15m for Pereyra.

"But even if we had 22 mil, we can't afford his salary"

Now look at Pereyra's:

look at it this way, shaqiri will be sold for about 15 mill, is pereyra really as good as shaqiri? no of course not

 

[CrimsonianKing]

All our best signings have pretty much been a pure strike of luck. Not even the most optimistic person in the world would think Pirlo would have such an impact. We brought him because 1. He was a freebie and 2. Italian and that's Marotta's preferred combination.

Don't even mention Pogba, there was no way we knew he was gonna turn out as he did, he barely had any playing time at United, again pure luck. Barzagli, pretty much a reject. We don't take risks. Instead there goes money out the window on players WE know won't be good enough, not even potentially. Tevez was another reject and luckily for us has found a new home in Italy. Vidal was a good player who turned into a beast, an excellent signing but not a risky one.

Morata is the only exception in recent times that we've taken a risk and we're still waiting to see if it pays off. If it does, that's the kind of approach we should've been using.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

All our best signings have pretty much been a pure strike of luck. Not even the most optimistic person in the world would think Pirlo would have such an impact. We brought him because 1. He was a freebie and 2. Italian and that's Marotta's preferred combination.

Don't even mention Pogba, there was no way we knew he was gonna turn out as he did, he barely had any playing time at United, again pure luck. Barzagli, pretty much a reject. We don't take risks. Instead there goes money out the window on players WE know won't be good enough, not even potentially.

Morata is the only exception in recent times and we're still waiting to see if it pays off. If it does, that's the kind of approach we should've been using.

Had it not been for Raiola offering Pogba to us i doubt he would be ours but otherwise i agree with what you said

 

[zizinho]

All our best signings have pretty much been a pure strike of luck. Not even the most optimistic person in the world would think Pirlo would have such an impact. We brought him because 1. He was a freebie and 2. Italian and that's Marotta's preferred combination.

Don't even mention Pogba, there was no way we knew he was gonna turn out as he did, he barely had any playing time at United, again pure luck. Barzagli, pretty much a reject. We don't take risks. Instead there goes money out the window on players WE know won't be good enough, not even potentially. Tevez was another reject and luckily for us has found a new home in Italy. Vidal was a good player who turned into a beast, an excellent signing but not a risky one.

Morata is the only exception in recent times that we've taken a risk and we're still waiting to see if it pays off. If it does, that's the kind of approach we should've been using.

i did

 

[Hust]

I don't think Shaqiri is that creative. Unfortunately even though we've winning the scudetto every year we still no money but if we had we should surely look for better experienced and proven players than the likes of Shaqiri and Sneijder.

Such as?

 

[Dostoevsky]

id even take ilicic ahead of sneijder

ok not so sure about that.

unfortunately had we not pissed psg off with coman and tapped up rabiot, pastore might have been a viable option unfortunately to say he's not exactly quick neither but thats another matter

Maybe not fast but he'd actually offer something we badly need and that's pretty great creativity and vision. His technique is also pretty damn great. He used to be great at Palermo so I'd take the risk easily. Not to mention he's like 5 years younger than Sneijder too and his best age is yet to come.

But yeah, you're right about the PSG thing.

 

[Hust]

unfortunately had we not pissed psg off with coman and tapped up rabiot, pastore might have been a viable option unfortunately to say he's not exactly quick neither but thats another matter

Wait, are you suggesting our club is at fault for pissing PSG off?

Also, its PSG's fault for losing Coman on a free and almost losing Rabiot.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Such as?

Don't take things out of context, read the whole post "we don't have money BUT if we had".

I could name 20 better players for that role in a blink of an eye, but for what "we can't afford them".

 

[Hust]

But yeah, you're right about the PSG thing.

Someone help me understand this PSG getting angry thing. Did they actually say something about it?

 

[zizinho]

Someone help me understand this PSG getting angry thing. Did they actually say something about it?

i never heard them say anything about being angry

 

[Hust]

Don't take things out of context, read the whole post "we don't have money BUT if we had".

I could name 20 better players for that role in a blink of an eye, but for what "we can't afford them".

Take what out of context? I asked you a question about who is better and more experienced to bring if we had money. Maybe you took my two word question out of context.

 

[JCK]

All our best signings have pretty much been a pure strike of luck. Not even the most optimistic person in the world would think Pirlo would have such an impact. We brought him because 1. He was a freebie and 2. Italian and that's Marotta's preferred combination.

Don't even mention Pogba, there was no way we knew he was gonna turn out as he did, he barely had any playing time at United, again pure luck. Barzagli, pretty much a reject. We don't take risks. Instead there goes money out the window on players WE know won't be good enough, not even potentially. Tevez was another reject and luckily for us has found a new home in Italy. Vidal was a good player who turned into a beast, an excellent signing but not a risky one.

Morata is the only exception in recent times that we've taken a risk and we're still waiting to see if it pays off. If it does, that's the kind of approach we should've been using.

That's so true, we were simply lucky and Marotta had nothing to do with it. This time around, past summer, he did not get lucky and it is now obvious that his signings were terrible.

 

[Hust]

i never heard them say anything about being angry

So why is it an issue dealing with them again? Isn't Blanc/Cobogli still there?

 

[zizinho]

So why is it an issue dealing with them again? Isn't Blanc/Cobogli still there?

i have no idea. i dont even think there is an issue.

 

[Hust]

i have no idea. i dont even think there is an issue.

Which is why I'm asking. Is BD inventing another theory to try and blame Marotta for something else or does he actually have something factual for once?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Take what out of context? I asked you a question about who is better and more experienced to bring if we had money. Maybe you took my two word question out of context.

Then I'll answer you:

Mata (whom i don't like but has been playing good football again)
Kagawa (not the top player he once was but a much better option than both)
Mkhitarian
Coutinho
Firmino
Isco

To name a few. In the Bundesliga alone you could find at least 10 good promising and talented youngsters playing the attacking mid role. Meyer is a name that comes to mind, De Bruyne as mentioned above and Calhanoglu who's been having a good debut season at Leverkusen.