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CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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IMO, we either get a real good Trequartista or none at all.

If we're not going for someone experienced and proven in that role, use what we have; Pogba/Vidal/Marchisio/Pereyra/Coman/Tevez or whoever fits best.
 

Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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you think someone playing for Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, Gladbach etc. would refuse an offer from Juve? thats what i call deluded. if Juve can afford top talents from Bundesliga or not (they cant at the moment since some of them have release clauses higher than 40M) is a different question. but saying they would never come to serie a is simply not true...
Werner could play for Bayern, but he refused to go there cos he loves his homeclub and wants to develop there before doing the next step and every top talent thinks that way..BTW these players could go to any club its not like Juve is the only big club showing interest..Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen or Wolfsburg are the German Top clubs so of course they would prefer such moves before going to Serie A..they have free choice to go anywhere or do u think only u guys r following them?

How can a shit club like Napoli keep their players like Hamsik? Cos Laurentiis is tough to deal with..same with Wolfsburg. If they have a contract, then of course these clubs can hold onto such players. I said the top talents wont come and believe it or not, but thats the reality. ;)

Brandt and Goretzka for example also had offers from Bayern, but look where they r playing now..Schalke and Leverkusen..WHY? cos they wants the best development and progress in peace.

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The nerve on this guy :lol2:

They aren't paying wages like Juve. What is their salary bill? Yearly income? Are you telling us that Wolfsburg pays anually 170m for players salaries because that is what Juve pays? Ridiculous notion. Serie A >>>>> Bundesloliga. Even in recent times, when most Serie A clubs are struggling, Italian league attracts more interest abroad. Face it, other Bundesloliga clubs are merely feeders for Bayern. No interest there, whatsoever.
Yes u r right the overall wage bill of Wolfsburg cannot compare with Juve, but they pay their top players around 8m€ gross and I think thats what Teves & Co. earning at juve right? If VW wants, then even Bayern have to be worried.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Werner could play for Bayern, but he refused to go there cos he loves his homeclub and wants to develop there before doing the next step and every top talent thinks that way..BTW these players could go to any club its not like Juve is the only big club showing interest..Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen or Wolfsburg are the German Top clubs so of course they would prefer such moves before going to Serie A..they have free choice to go anywhere or do u think only u guys r following them?

How can a $#@! club like Napoli keep their players like Hamsik? Cos Laurentiis is tough to deal with..same with Wolfsburg. If they have a contract, then of course these clubs can hold onto such players. I said the top talents wont come and believe it or not, but thats the reality. ;)

Brandt and Goretzka for example also had offers from Bayern, but look where they r playing now..Schalke and Leverkusen..WHY? cos they wants the best development and progress in peace.

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Yes u r right the overall wage bill of Wolfsburg cannot compare with Juve, but they pay their top players around 8m€ gross and I think thats what Teves & Co. earning at juve right? If VW wants, then even Bayern have to be worried.
Vidal
 

Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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1. Player from Chile..I m talking about GERMAN top talents..no doubt that players from South America still like the Serie A and a lot would prefer Juve instead of the German clubs. Juve just had a chance, cos Leverkusen refused to sell him to Bayern, cos they thought they could compete with them. :lol2:

2. He had just one year of contract remaining..under such circumstances, most players r gettable in Bundesliga. Thankfully for u, the English clubs were not aware how awesome he is, so u had no other competition to fear..these times have changed and are over now. Nowadays tons of players r linked to EPL, cos everybody knows now, that Bundesliga produces an abundance of talents and the clubs wont sell their players for cheap anymore.

3. Firmino for example i could see moving to Serie A, but the prob is, that EPL clubs r aware of his talent too and ll prob want him badly. He reportedly has a buyout-clause, but I have no idea how high it is..my guess is around 25-30m€.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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1. Player from Chile..I m talking about GERMAN top talents..no doubt that players from South America still like the Serie A and a lot would prefer Juve instead of the German clubs. Juve just had a chance, cos Leverkusen refused to sell him to Bayern, cos they thought they could compete with them. :lol2:

2. He had just one year of contract remaining..under such circumstances, most players r gettable in Bundesliga. Thankfully for u, the English clubs were not aware how awesome he is, so u had no other competition to fear..these times have changed and are over now. Nowadays tons of players r linked to EPL, cos everybody knows now, that Bundesliga produces an abundance of talents and the clubs wont sell their players for cheap anymore.

3. Firmino for example i could see moving to Serie A, but the prob is, that EPL clubs r aware of his talent too and ll prob want him badly. He reportedly has a buyout-clause, but I have no idea how high it is..my guess is around 25-30m€.
1. Germans rarely went for Serie A anyway even when it was the best league in the world. The same applies to english players. Serie A has always attracted South americans and Eastern Europeans and continues to do so just at a lower level given the financial situation.

2. Bundesliga players would prefer clubs like Juve over midtable German teams if they were guaranteed enough playing time. Morata is a top spanish talent that came from Real Madrid and Pogba came from United while Koman came from PSG (each from the biggest team of that country) Rabiot is going to Roma too.

3. Serie A is increasingly being seen as a stepping stone for players. EPL and the big guns (Bayern, Madrid and Barca) are more of a final destination. 10 years ago Serie A was only bettered by madrid.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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For those speaking about Reus. Just forget it.
It's true that we might afford him if we sell Pogba or Vidal. But are you sure the player would want to join us instead of random epl team or Barcellona/Real.
Only thing i'm sure that unluke Gotze and Lewandosky he will not go to Bayern. He is a true BvB fan. So unless it's the team that ask to leave for economical reasons he'll stick there.
Only way for Reus to join us would be (and it's unlikely to happen) for Klopp to join us and that by selling one of our cm starts pay what Borussia ask.

But let's say this happen. how would juventus play? If you get Reus and Klopp we will probably play with 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3.
Llorente,Tevez and Morata aren't fit for that game style imo.
Tevez is a 2nd striker or at max a CoC.
Llorente isn't fast enough to be the CF in a one man atk and 2 wingers.
Morata is more of a winger.

So how would we play?
And honestly in the past 2years juventus didn't invest a cent over the market window. We managed our stuff by selling players and always going to 0 in the balance. We improved only our salary payout.
And if we don't qualify for the elimination phase in champions it's for sure that we ain't getting any quality player. At best we'll waste all our money on our youngsters (next year they'll remove any kind of co-owning).

I bet next summer we're getting Gabbiadini,Berardi and Sturaro. And we might look for a CB/LB/RB. No strikers/wingers unless Giovinco and Llorente leave
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
For those speaking about Reus. Just forget it.
It's true that we might afford him if we sell Pogba or Vidal. But are you sure the player would want to join us instead of random epl team or Barcellona/Real.
Only thing i'm sure that unluke Gotze and Lewandosky he will not go to Bayern. He is a true BvB fan. So unless it's the team that ask to leave for economical reasons he'll stick there.
Only way for Reus to join us would be (and it's unlikely to happen) for Klopp to join us and that by selling one of our cm starts pay what Borussia ask.

But let's say this happen. how would juventus play? If you get Reus and Klopp we will probably play with 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3.
Llorente,Tevez and Morata aren't fit for that game style imo.
Tevez is a 2nd striker or at max a CoC.
Llorente isn't fast enough to be the CF in a one man atk and 2 wingers.
Morata is more of a winger.

So how would we play?
And honestly in the past 2years juventus didn't invest a cent over the market window. We managed our stuff by selling players and always going to 0 in the balance. We improved only our salary payout.
And if we don't qualify for the elimination phase in champions it's for sure that we ain't getting any quality player. At best we'll waste all our money on our youngsters (next year they'll remove any kind of co-owning).

I bet next summer we're getting Gabbiadini,Berardi and Sturaro. And we might look for a CB/LB/RB. No strikers/wingers unless Giovinco and Llorente leave
Dude Morata is not a winger. He's a perfect CF for Klopp. Well built and strong but at the same time very mobile and fast. Just saying.

Summer mercato that would be good

In: firmino berardi gabbiadini murru scar rabiot konoplaymka pereyra

Out: giovinco ogbonna isla marrone
We won't even get half from that list tbh. Rabiot already renewed with PSG.

I can honestly see us between Shaqiri and Berardi as potential signings in January/next summer for the AM spot. Expecting anything more/better is unrealistic IMO.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Dude Morata is not a winger. He's a perfect CF for Klopp. Well built and strong but at the same time very mobile and fast. Just saying.
:excited:

We won't even get half from that list tbh. Rabiot already renewed with PSG.

I can honestly see us between Shaqiri and Berardi as potential signings in January/next summer for the AM spot. Expecting anything more/better is unrealistic IMO.
really? when? :sigh:
 
Jul 20, 2012
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1. Player from Chile..I m talking about GERMAN top talents..no doubt that players from South America still like the Serie A and a lot would prefer Juve instead of the German clubs. Juve just had a chance, cos Leverkusen refused to sell him to Bayern, cos they thought they could compete with them. :lol2:

2. He had just one year of contract remaining..under such circumstances, most players r gettable in Bundesliga. Thankfully for u, the English clubs were not aware how awesome he is, so u had no other competition to fear..these times have changed and are over now. Nowadays tons of players r linked to EPL, cos everybody knows now, that Bundesliga produces an abundance of talents and the clubs wont sell their players for cheap anymore.

3. Firmino for example i could see moving to Serie A, but the prob is, that EPL clubs r aware of his talent too and ll prob want him badly. He reportedly has a buyout-clause, but I have no idea how high it is..my guess is around 25-30m€.
This guy has an excuse for everything

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really? when? :sigh:
I believe it was last Friday
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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1. Germans rarely went for Serie A anyway even when it was the best league in the world. The same applies to english players. Serie A has always attracted South americans and Eastern Europeans and continues to do so just at a lower level given the financial situation.

2. Bundesliga players would prefer clubs like Juve over midtable German teams if they were guaranteed enough playing time. Morata is a top spanish talent that came from Real Madrid and Pogba came from United while Koman came from PSG (each from the biggest team of that country) Rabiot is going to Roma too.

3. Serie A is increasingly being seen as a stepping stone for players. EPL and the big guns (Bayern, Madrid and Barca) are more of a final destination. 10 years ago Serie A was only bettered by madrid.
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This guy has an excuse for everything

he presented arguments, what do you got?
 
Jul 20, 2012
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he presented arguments, what do you got?
There are no arguments in this case. You can't justify a whole nations transfers. Every player/person is different in this sense and there isn't a standard for the population. I would simply say that Germans like many other nationalities want to stay close to their roots instead of go abroad.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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There are no arguments in this case. You can't justify a whole nations transfers. Every player/person is different in this sense and there isn't a standard for the population. I would simply say that Germans like many other nationalities want to stay close to their roots instead of go abroad.
so basically you got nothing to answer him back but platitudes, sounds to me you;re the one with the excuses.
 
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