Who is the greatest Italian player ever? (4 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

But Yashin and Banks were fantastic.

Some people here must believe Buffon is the greatest keeper of all time then.

 

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[Bjerknes]

That's not true, but when talking about Gentile, Scirea, and Baresi, they were some of the, if not THE, best defenders to ever live. Baresi and Gentile invented zone marking, and Scirea made it an art.

In terms of "older" players in general, have any players won 5 CL trophies since Di Stefano?

Some older players have so many honors and some had scoring records that are not and will not be rivaled, ever.

 

[Stephan]

In terms of "older" players in general, have any players won 5 CL trophies since Di Stefano?

Seedorf and Maldini have 5 CL trophies.

 

[JCK]

Where is Balotelli?

 

[Stephan]

That's not true, but when talking about Gentile, Scirea, and Baresi, they were some of the, if not THE, best defenders to ever live. Baresi and Gentile invented zone marking, and Scirea made it an art.

If you say that, then doesnt that mean Buffon > Zoff, since Zoff played with those guys in front of him in his older years. By your point Zoff had better defenders in front of him through his career than Buffon has had.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That's not true, but when talking about Gentile, Scirea, and Baresi, they were some of the, if not THE, best defenders to ever live. Baresi and Gentile invented zone marking, and Scirea made it an art.

In terms of "older" players in general, have any players won 5 CL trophies since Di Stefano?

Some older players have so many honors and some had scoring records that are not and will not be rivaled, ever.

I don't believe in using team honours to compare players.

 

[Bjerknes]

But how is Buffon better than Zoff?

 

[Stephan]

But how is Buffon better than Zoff?

By Burke logic Buffon never has had the artists and best markers in front of him "helping" out Zoff.

 

[JuveJay]

Yashin was also helped by Soviet propaganda, but anyways I don't know how you can really compare any footballers from different eras. Those in the distant past will always benefit from legend and nostalgia.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yashin was also helped by Soviet propaganda, but anyways I don't know how you can really compare any footballers from different eras. Those in the distant past will always benefit from legend and nostalgia.

That too. I don't know about the Soviet propaganda though.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah, Yashin was all propaganda. Basically like Juventus propaganda with Buffon and Zoff.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Seedorf and Maldini have 5 CL trophies.

Yea, but they are black, so it doesn't count?

If you say that, then doesnt that mean Buffon > Zoff, since Zoff played with those guys in front of him in his older years. By your point Zoff had better defenders in front of him through his career than Buffon has had.

Zoff will always be better than Buffon because Zoff had better BURNSIDES!

I don't believe in using team honours to compare players.

I don't believe in using a parachute when I jump out of a plane, but hey, I guess we are both dumb then.

By Burke logic Buffon never has had the artists and best markers in front of him "helping" out Zoff.

Gigi raped a 5th grader.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

But how is Buffon better than Zoff?

how is he not?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Yeah, Yashin was all propaganda. Basically like Juventus propaganda with Buffon and Zoff.

Yashin was sick for years when they were getting to the finals of the WC and Euros.

 

[Stephan]

Yea, but they are black, so it doesn't count?

Zoff will always be better than Buffon because Zoff had better BURNSIDES!

I don't believe in using a parachute when I jump out of a plane, but hey, I guess we are both dumb then.

Gigi raped a 5th grader.

Lost ideas how to back your argument?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

how is he not?

Don't answer a question with a question.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Lost ideas how to back your argument?

Not at all, I just don't care what you really think.

I presented my opinion and why I think the way I do, you guys are all Juve bias.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't believe in using a parachute when I jump out of a plane, but hey, I guess we are both dumb then.

Speak for yourself, I'll use the damn parachute. Put Di Stefano in this Juve side and I doubt he'd win 5 European Cups.

 

[Bjerknes]

how is he not?

I think the burden of proof is on you, considering Buffon doesn't have anywhere near Zoff's appearance and accomplishment record and Zoff is considered by some as the best of all time.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yashin was sick for years when they were getting to the finals of the WC and Euros.

Nah, it's all propaganda.