Which team do you like to be our next opponent in CL? (11 Viewers)

Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by primo_calcio ] ++
Did I say that DP is AS DEPENDENT as Trez? Did I say that?
In as many words, yes. You said that they rely on each other in a partnership, but I showed how DP is perhaps better without Trez and Trez is markedly worse without DP.
 

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JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Primo / oded

dont you think your the ones being closed minded in dismissing toms (and mine) opinion as rubbish
Tom has outlined good points and his opinion is no less valid or worthy than yours.

oded you have admitted in the past you rarely see a game so in all fairness , how would you know.
I didn't say the word rubbish.
but when you criticize one of your best player like this, it's just unfair. even if you do say some good points about Trezeguet, I just think you both are too critical.
Tom, Trezeguet IS one of the best strikers in the world.

Paul, I know I rarely see games, but I did see some games. And I know how many he score, + saw his goals. isn't enough? I mean, goals is the most important thing after all.
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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Oded, it all depends really on what you want from a striker. You might be happy for him to just bang in 20 goals a season. Personally I want a bigger contribution to the team than just scoring 20 goals. I want to see him play a part in goals, creating stuff for his teammates, working hard off the ball and showing good hold up play and all round technique.

Trez IMO is just a plain goalscorer with no extra talent in particular. The other thing is that he often falters against good defences, yet scores loads against the weaker tema. Is this co-incidence or is he simply not a top level striker?
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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his goal against arsenal was a deflection, leverjusen played crap against us, the goal against depor was a deflection, that leaves one against Inter and one against Italy..

not great
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


In as many words, yes. You said that they rely on each other in a partnership, but I showed how DP is perhaps better without Trez and Trez is markedly worse without DP.
I dont believe I said that, because if i did, i would stand by it. Trez is obviously more dependent on DP but DP also depends on Trez at times to drag the defense with him. Quote me if ever I said that DP is as dependent as Trez. Then I will take your point.
 

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
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not much, but the goal against Italy is the cup, so it worth a lot more.
Zidane wasn't good last year, but he did score the winner in the final. so, what is the difference?

Trezeguet is a winner too!
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
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As regards to Paolo, it is clear that we look for different aspects coming from a striker. While Oded and I seemingly are appreciative of Trez's contribution, you are not. But I still hold the thought that soring 24 goals in 1 season and being top scorer is a very big thing in a striker's career, and you cannot take that away from trez.
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
his goal against arsenal was a deflection, leverjusen played crap against us, the goal against depor was a deflection, that leaves one against Inter and one against Italy..

not great
So you're making a point that if a striker is left to score a simple goal or left with easy finishing touches, it's nothing great and not worth the contribution to make him a world class striker???

As stated before inthe previous posts, I believe that it takes a great amount of skill to keep moving inside the opponents box to free yourself and latch on to those tap ins. It may not be as impressive as dribbling past several players and scoring, but it gets results and contributes a lot to the club's success.
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by Oded ] ++
I won! you didn't reply to my question, that means you agree :D
actually i went for a shit if you must know.

onto your question :D
whats the fifference...well actually there's a very big difference in that thousands of palyers wcould have scored trez's goal, but only a very small handful could have scored that wonderous ZZ goal. Trez goal was laid on a plate for him , like 99% of his goals are!! Zidane's was pure genious and all down to him!
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
++ [ originally posted by primo_calcio ] ++
So you're making a point that if a striker is left to score a simple goal or left with easy finishing touches, it's nothing great and not worth the contribution to make him a world class striker???
well of course its nothing great..what do you expect its a tap in :D
Fact is, with the little he contributes, he should be expected to score about 40 goals a seaosn, as his ONLY aim in a match is to score, and yet he does bugger all to achieve this besides wait for a tap in opportunity!!

hell even pippo contributes more to the team :D
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
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++ [ originally posted by primo_calcio ] ++
prove it, otherwise, i'll never believe you :D:D:D:D
Ale is just signalling to his barber that he wants trez's hairdo

lo and behold this year he had his head shaved :D:D

prove me wrong b!tch :D
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
that must be GENIUS?

If you want to see a wodner goal by trez, have you seen zidane score a goal like the goal trez scored in the 1-0 win against Udinese? Now that's genius!!!
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
oh come on, you can't possibly compare those goals!! Zidane's is miles better and much harder to pull off and you know it

Besides, i have seen Zidane score many better goals as well. He has scored some wonderous chips, some fantastic curlers, all from outside the area
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
its pointless, i'm just wasting valuable energy on you when i could be sharing sensible thoughts with sensible people.

pray i dont see ya!
 

Ahmed_

Bench Warmer
Dec 23, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++


actually i went for a shit if you must know.

onto your question :D
whats the fifference...well actually there's a very big difference in that thousands of palyers wcould have scored trez's goal, but only a very small handful could have scored that wonderous ZZ goal. Trez goal was laid on a plate for him , like 99% of his goals are!! Zidane's was pure genious and all down to him!
so you are saying that ZZ is the best and he is a genious ... and trez is nothing

what do you say about trezs goal against italy in the final of euro 2000 ... that is what i call genious ... he was a sub and scored the best goal in his career ... while zidan played the hole tournment with out doing anything important:groan:
 

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