What is your god like? (8 Viewers)

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I'll urdu all over your leg.

 

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[DelpieroForLife]

I think Prophet Mohammed advised all Muslims to learn Arabic.

 

[Seven]

In Arabic with English or Swedish translation. I have the Salaat prayers memorized in Urdu though.

That's pretty fucking sad. I mean, your entire life is based on this religion and you can't read the book that tells you about it in the original language? Furthermore they specifically state that Arabic is a sacred language.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Why's that sad? What difference would it make if I knew Arabic?

 

[Seven]

You based your life on a book you can't read.

 

[Zé Tahir]

But I can read it.

 

[Seven]

No, you can't. You can read a translation. That doesn't even come close.

 

[Zé Tahir]

I can read the Arabic, I just can't understand it in the Arabic language.

 

[Seven]

Yes, that way I can read Greek as well. Doesn't mean anything.

Honestly, don't you find this odd? You base your life on some book you can't read in the original language even though the book says that language is sacred. You base your life upon it, yet you can't be bothered to learn the actual language.

 

[Zé Tahir]

OK, but I don't understand why that makes any difference.

 

[Seven]

Because interpretation is key. And translators interpret. Come on, Ze, this is just insane.

 

[mikhail]

OK, but I don't understand why that makes any difference.

Given the translational problems with the Christian bibles, I can see where Seven is coming from.

Seven, you could have make that point without calling anyone "fucking sad".

 

[Seven]

Given the translational problems with the Christian bibles, I can see where Seven is coming from.

Seven, you could have make that point without calling anyone "fucking sad".

I didn't call anyone fucking sad, mikhail. Unless "that" is a person now.

 

[Dinsdale]

By the way, even if you believe that what a prophet said is 99,9 % reliable, it's still unlikely that what he said is true. It's kind of mathematical, but I can explain further if anyone cares.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

That's pretty fucking sad. I mean, your entire life is based on this religion and you can't read the book that tells you about it in the original language? Furthermore they specifically state that Arabic is a sacred language.

Then you should also get on all Christians as their book is not read or even available in Aramaic.

 

[Seven]

Then you should also get on all Christians as their book is not read or even available in Aramaic.

The Bible was written in different languages to begin with.

 

[Raz]

By the way, even if you believe that what a prophet said is 99,9 % reliable, it's still unlikely that what he said is true. It's kind of mathematical, but I can explain further if anyone cares.

If you have the time, I would like to hear it out.

 

[Dinsdale]

If you have the time, I would like to hear it out.

I'm too lazy to formulate it myself, so I'm just going to quote this guy (David Sklansky) who wrote this on another forum:

What I am about to tell you is fact. If a person tells you something that seems hard to believe, there is a calculation you can perform if you previously held two opinions. This calculation is totally valid even if the subject matter is God. It works like this.

First come up with the probability in your mind that you would have given this piece of information before you were told anything. If the person told you they flipped ten fair coins and got ten heads it would be 1/1024. If they told you that their 51 year old sister was pregnant it might be 1/15,000. Those would be the chances BEFORE you heard the story. Now that you heard the story you ADJUST based on your opinion that the speaker would lie or be mistaken. Suppose you think that there is a 1/100 chance this person would lie or get things wrong. In other words you think this pers is 99% reliable. The problem is that if his contention outlandish he is still probably wrong. If he is asked about 15,001 different 51 year old females he will tell you the pregnant one is pregnant but he will say the same of 150 who are not.
His reliability allow you to significantly decrease your level of disbelief but not to the point where you can acrtually believe him.

Of course, religious people will assume their prophet is 100% reliable, but it might be an interesting concept for historicians.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I'm too lazy to formulate it myself, so I'm just going to quote this guy (David Sklansky) who wrote this on another forum:

What I am about to tell you is fact. If a person tells you something that seems hard to believe, there is a calculation you can perform if you previously held two opinions. This calculation is totally valid even if the subject matter is God. It works like this.

First come up with the probability in your mind that you would have given this piece of information before you were told anything. If the person told you they flipped ten fair coins and got ten heads it would be 1/1024. If they told you that their 51 year old sister was pregnant it might be 1/15,000. Those would be the chances BEFORE you heard the story. Now that you heard the story you ADJUST based on your opinion that the speaker would lie or be mistaken. Suppose you think that there is a 1/100 chance this person would lie or get things wrong. In other words you think this pers is 99% reliable. The problem is that if his contention outlandish he is still probably wrong. If he is asked about 15,001 different 51 year old females he will tell you the pregnant one is pregnant but he will say the same of 150 who are not.
His reliability allow you to significantly decrease your level of disbelief but not to the point where you can acrtually believe him.

Of course, religious people will assume their prophet is 100% reliable, but it might be an interesting concept for historicians.

There is undeniable logic behind your post.

 

[Raz]

Thanks Interesting way of viewing it.