What is your god like? (12 Viewers)
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No, it's not a question of logic. It's a question of metaphysics. And time is not some magical thing that exists. It's a metaphysical construction to describe motion. If there is no motion, there is no time.
On what basis can you presuppose time in a metaphysical sense? How can something exist without any basis in the natural world? If it does, then time itself would have to be supernatural. This is the false assumption that you're relying on. And that's not how time is defined.
On what basis can you presuppose time in a metaphysical sense? How can something exist without any basis in the natural world? If it does, then time itself would have to be supernatural. This is the false assumption that you're relying on. And that's not how time is defined.
Dr Craig,"The absolute origin of the universe, of all matter and energy, even of physical space and time themselves, in the Big Bang singularity contradicts the perennial naturalistic assumption that the universe has always existed. One after another, models designed to avert the initial cosmological singularity--the Steady State model, the Oscillating model, Vacuum Fluctuation models--have come and gone. Current quantum gravity models, such as the Hartle-Hawking model and the Vilenkin model, must appeal to the physically unintelligible and metaphysically dubious device of "imaginary time" to avoid the universe's beginning. The contingency implied by an absolute beginning ex nihilo points to a transcendent cause of the universe beyond space and time. Philosophical objections to a cause of the universe fail to carry conviction."
He has it backwards. Matter, energy and time are all concepts defined in terms of the universe. They are not "floating" concepts defined regardless of the universe. Without the universe they don't mean anything. So to speak of time or matter "before" or "outside" the universe is to use a word in a context in which it has no meaning.
And this is how people like Dr. Craig appear to make a logical point while in fact they talk in self contradictions :wink:
And this is how people like Dr. Craig appear to make a logical point while in fact they talk in self contradictions :wink:
When you have a species that is made of only one sex it would make sense...
but when we have males and females... heterosexuality is a must for the species to continue and reproduce. AIDS is a result of homosexuality and is lethal.
Heterosexual sleeping around and homosexual activities do result in STD,s
but when we have males and females... heterosexuality is a must for the species to continue and reproduce. AIDS is a result of homosexuality and is lethal.
Heterosexual sleeping around and homosexual activities do result in STD,s
You are misunderstanding something very fundamental about reasoning. To use reason is to gather evidence via sensory perception (sight, sound, touch etc) and attempt to unify these facts under some common theme. Ie. to give them meaning.
Science is a way to understand the world by using reason. This is similar to what we talked about before. There is no such thing as "heat". "Heat" is something that describes the motion of particles. The faster particles move in a body, the "hotter" it is. Heat in itself does not exist. Neither does time. Time describes the speed of particle motion.
All of these concepts are defined in terms of our universe.
Science is a way to understand the world by using reason. This is similar to what we talked about before. There is no such thing as "heat". "Heat" is something that describes the motion of particles. The faster particles move in a body, the "hotter" it is. Heat in itself does not exist. Neither does time. Time describes the speed of particle motion.
All of these concepts are defined in terms of our universe.
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This is interesting, I'd like to know what you think about it.
This is interesting, I'd like to know what you think about it.
I don't know why you say take a look at animals. A lot of animals have homosexual sex. As for STD's: in the case of HIV/AIDS it's anal sex that is generally considered most risky. This could be either heterosexual or homosexual. The reason that a lot of homosexuals got HIV/AIDS in the eighties is culturual, not biological. Homosexuality is not more lethal than heterosexuality. Sex itself never kills anyway.
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