big statement.
There is a huge difference in the old testament and new testament god.
There is a huge difference in the old testament and new testament god.
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What is your god like? (7 Viewers)
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Anselm:'God is a being than which no greater can be thought'
From this Anselm argues while it is possible to exist in the mind only, and remain a mere definition, it is much betterto exist in both mind and reality. Therefore when staying true to the very definition of God logic suggests God must exist firstly in the mind as a definition and secondly in reality.
Personally, what attracted me mostly to Christianity was Jesus of the New Testament. Ofcourse, any portayal of God could be the better one but I suppose the message of forgiveness and hope of the New Testament is the reason people prefer it more to the more blunt and rather gloomy message at times of the Old Testament.
Define "greater" and "being".
And unless you have redefined "thought" under my feet I have no problem imagining an arbitrarily great (in the classical definition) being (also in the classical definition). The only thing I have no concept of is infinity, but if god is a being (classical def) then he is not infinite. If he is infinite then the word "being" doesn't apply unless redefined.
So you have told me nothing.
But this is only the top of the iceberg.
And unless you have redefined "thought" under my feet I have no problem imagining an arbitrarily great (in the classical definition) being (also in the classical definition). The only thing I have no concept of is infinity, but if god is a being (classical def) then he is not infinite. If he is infinite then the word "being" doesn't apply unless redefined.
So you have told me nothing.
But this is only the top of the iceberg.
Whether it can be detected or not, it has to exist. A spirit is more abstract, whereas the sun is concrete.
Everything. Nothing. Power. Goodness. If it's an abstract being it could be anything. If it's something concrete such as the sun, then god's... hot.
There is no point. It's just a wish, a nice thought. Or an explanation. Or an excuse.
God is what we want it to be and I guess it helps us digest reality.
Everything. Nothing. Power. Goodness. If it's an abstract being it could be anything. If it's something concrete such as the sun, then god's... hot.
There is no point. It's just a wish, a nice thought. Or an explanation. Or an excuse.
God is what we want it to be and I guess it helps us digest reality.
What does the word "existence" mean if detection is impossible? And I don't mean impossible in the sense that our ancestors didn't have voltmeters, I mean in the sense being undetectable by humans by definition.
A being is not abstract. It implies a physical body. Or do you have a different definition?
Does it?
A being is not abstract. It implies a physical body. Or do you have a different definition?
Does it?
being connotes existance, right. You could think of the perfect Island right, it is merely contingent. God is nessacary
you are almost coming from a kantian response by saying that 'being' being a predicate of God is not an analytical statement right but a synthetic statement that needs to be proved; becuse if something is not proved then predicates are pointless.
right?
you are almost coming from a kantian response by saying that 'being' being a predicate of God is not an analytical statement right but a synthetic statement that needs to be proved; becuse if something is not proved then predicates are pointless.
right?
Let me rephrase. Being might have been the incorrect word. I need to have a logical explanation for God. I simply can't believe that it's "up there", but I need to project God on something to believe in it. Be it the sun, aspects of human behaviour or something else of importance. So God has to be something for me to be a believer. I can't simply be religious since someone tells me that God is there.
You're not going to get a definite answer from me since these possible beliefs have no effect on my life. If there was a God however, this is how I would perceive it.
For most, yes.
You're not going to get a definite answer from me since these possible beliefs have no effect on my life. If there was a God however, this is how I would perceive it.
For most, yes.
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