What is your god like? (22 Viewers)

[Martin]

But you know nothing about God unless you believe in him, which you don't.
I cannot say I think "X" is an ungrateful, sadistic bastard that deserves to rot in hell If I have said I don't believe "X" exists.

I'll tell you what, You say that God might exist, and then we can talk about what you know about him. Because as far as I'm concerned you know absolutely nothing about Him because he does not exist.

Sure I do. I know everything people have ever told me about god. Of course I think this character is fictional, but nevertheless this fictional character is not at all like the commercials try to convince me. I know what he did in the fictional story, so I know this fictional character is not a kind person.

 

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[Raz]

What do you do? What's your name?

Lithuania? Our countries used to be in union lol

Yep, for defence against christians and russians in the end it didnt succeded but the result of this is that we have a lot of polish people living here, because there was a lot of mixing with our two nations

My name is Adomas, im student, third year in uni, studying bussines management and administration, which is some times cool, but other times not so. I love football, but i guess its obvious this being football forum

What about you, from what i have read you are from Poland living in Sweeden who works as a programmer?

 

[rounder]

It seems its hard for me, because you say, you believe that certain people saw him, you are not sure, so which is it? I will ask you a simple question. Are you certain that people saw jesus do REAL miracles? If not, why not? And if you are not certain of jesus, how can you be even remotely certain about other people who came later in time?

I'm going to introduce you to a new word today. "Faith". You see, I will never know anything for certain, I don't know if I am awake, I may be having a very long dream. That's what faith is, I have faith that Jesus did perform these miracles. But to have faith is not the same as being 100% sure of something, that requires a different step.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Why? I don't believe in any supernatural stuff. Not ghosts, not UFOs, not even Santa Claus. A supernatural explanation is the same as no explanation at all. Because you cannot explain the supernatural, can you?

Lets say there is no supernatural stuff does the evolution starting from nullity sounds like a definite explanation?

 

[Martin]

Yep, for defence against christians and russians in the end it didnt succeded but the result of this is that we have a lot of polish people living here, because there was a lot of mixing with our two nations

My name is Adomas, im student, third year in uni, studying bussines management and administration, which is some times cool, but other times not so. I love football, but i guess its obvious this being football forum

What about you, from what i have read you are from Poland living in Sweeden who works as a programmer?

I'm Martin, I started this website a long time ago. I lived most of my life in Norway, but now I'm in the Netherlands in college. And I do a lot of programming for fun (and sometimes for work).

 

[rounder]

Sure I do. I know everything people have ever told me about god. Of course I think this character is fictional, but nevertheless this fictional character is not at all like the commercials try to convince me. I know what he did in the fictional story, so I know this fictional character is not a kind person.

You don't think He is kind, I do think He is kind. Thus you cannot be sure of saying He does not exist. Anyway, I need to go to sleep.

It's funny how you spend so much time talking about something that you know doesn't even exist. You're really something.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I'm going to introduce you to a new word today. "Faith". You see, I will never know anything for certain, I don't know if I am awake, I may be having a very long dream. That's what faith is, I have faith that Jesus did perform these miracles. But to have faith is not the same as being 100% sure of something, that requires a different step.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say, nothing is 100% sure as we use our LIMITED five sense to recognize the world around us.

Can you prove we are not living a Matrix like the movie? No you can't.

 

[Raz]

We have a tiny little ball which bangs to create universe as we know today so where the hell did this ball came from.... oh sorry it can't came from anywhere otherwise this will mean some kind of superpower created it the right word must be an evolution, great... to evolve you MUST have a starting point which you obviously lack in your argument.

Its a work in progress, some time ago we thought earth was center of the universe, just sit back and enjoy the ride of discoveries

Martin, UFO arent supernatural at all, they are all natural, until a plane introduces itself he is considered unidentified flying object.

It would be interesing to know, why would you not believe in possability of aliens? its nothing supernatural at all, just guys living on another planet.

 

[Martin]

Lets say there is no supernatural stuff does the evolution starting from nullity sounds like a definite explanation?

It sounds strange, but actually no less strange than a lot of things in physics that we know are true. Such as photons travel at the speed of light and have zero mass. Or atoms which are mostly made up of empty space, with a tiny electron orbiting the kernel.

If you ask a person on the street who doesn't know any physics they wouldn't believe it. But experiments have shown that it's true. So what is the conclusion? Things that seem strange can be true anyway.

 

[Martin]

You don't think He is kind, I do think He is kind. Thus you cannot be sure of saying He does not exist. Anyway, I need to go to sleep.

It's funny how you spend so much time talking about something that you know doesn't even exist. You're really something.

Which is why it fascinates me that other people believe in this stuff I talk about this not because I want to learn about theology but because I'm interested in psychology and the reasons people have for doing and believing what they do.

 

[Raz]

I'm going to introduce you to a new word today. "Faith". You see, I will never know anything for certain, I don't know if I am awake, I may be having a very long dream. That's what faith is, I have faith that Jesus did perform these miracles. But to have faith is not the same as being 100% sure of something, that requires a different step.

Thanks for clearing this up, whatever you call it then, just dont use words that mean certain next time. Its very misleading.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

It sounds strange, but actually no less strange than a lot of things in physics that we know are true. Such as photons travel at the speed of light and have zero mass. Or atoms which are mostly made up of empty space, with a tiny electron orbiting the kernel.

If you ask a person on the street who doesn't know any physics they wouldn't believe it. But experiments have shown that it's true. So what is the conclusion? Things that seem strange can be true anyway.

Let me get this straight... what is your definition of nullity?

Nullity as I can understand is absolutely nothing... how can a thing evolve from nothing is beyond me and beyond causality.

 

[Raz]

I'm Martin, I started this website a long time ago. I lived most of my life in Norway, but now I'm in the Netherlands in college. And I do a lot of programming for fun (and sometimes for work).

Nice to know you, that cleared a bit of misinformation in my mind

 

[Raz]

Let me get this straight... what is your definition of nullity?

Nullity as I can understand is absolutely nothing... how can a thing evolve from nothing is beyond me and beyond causality.

Are you familiar with string theory? or M-theory which is string theory but glued together a bit.

 

[Martin]

Its a work in progress, some time ago we thought earth was center of the universe, just sit back and enjoy the ride of discoveries

Martin, UFO arent supernatural at all, they are all natural, until a plane introduces itself he is considered unidentified flying object.

It would be interesing to know, why would you not believe in possability of aliens? its nothing supernatural at all, just guys living on another planet.

Maybe they don't have to be supernatural, just mythical. Don't you think it's interesting that all photographs or video clips of UFOs are in tiny format and grainy, extremely poor quality so that you can't decide anything from it? And don't you think it's suspicious that all reported UFOs have been "seen" in the US, a country which has a long tradition of stories and movies about aliens?

It's not that I really deny the possibility of aliens, they are at least logically possible unlike god ( ), but for the time being there is no reason to think they exist.

 

[Martin]

Let me get this straight... what is your definition of nullity?

Nullity as I can understand is absolutely nothing... how can a thing evolve from nothing is beyond me and beyond causality.

Me too, I want to know but so far noone has explained it

 

[Raz]

Maybe they don't have to be supernatural, just mythical. Don't you think it's interesting that all photographs or video clips of UFOs are in tiny format and grainy, extremely poor quality so that you can't decide anything from it? And don't you think it's suspicious that all reported UFOs have been "seen" in the US, a country which has a long tradition of stories and movies about aliens?

It's not that I really deny the possibility of aliens, they are at least logically possible unlike god ( ), but for the time being there is no reason to think they exist.

Oh, i thought you were talking about actual aliens, not some trailer people photos. That subject doesnt even interest maybe just the thing why would people try to do such things, whats their purpose? Other than that its total nonsense.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

To make things even more interesting if once upon a time a long ago a thing evolved out of nothing why it isn't happening again?

Can a Zero figure in my high school math exam accidentally evolve to Seven causing me to lose in consequence the bachelor degree I hold today?

 

[Martin]

Oh, i thought you were talking about actual aliens, not some trailer people photos. That subject doesnt even interest maybe just the thing why would people try to do such things, whats their purpose? Other than that its total nonsense.

They're imagining things. The human brain is not that smart, if you read a lot of books and watch a lot of movies about aliens, then you have a lot of "possible visions" in your brain that have to do with aliens. So when you see something and you're not sure what it is, your brain says "aliens! it's aliens!".

It's what we do all the time, we see something and our brain has to decide what it is. Sometimes it makes a mistake.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Me too, I want to know but so far noone has explained it

But even if you don't know how you agree it happened once right?