Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I've been thinking about this lately. How do you all currently feel about your careers?
Love the money, but don't really enjoy what I do. Had a pretty big project end last month and now I'm just coasting until they put me on the next big thing. Been with my current employer for almost 5 years now so might need a change. But it's probably the same everywhere in the IT world.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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I think this plays a large role in it tbh. I can only speak for me, but the only time I have this issue is when I'm doing something I have to do rather than want to do. When you're doing something you genuinely enjoy, do you still find yourself distracted or unable to focus?
I think it is work related. I've been at my job for 2 and a half years and I'm already massively bored.

When I had my own little business I didn't mind getting up at 5 am on a Sunday to get work done. I wasn't rich but I felt free. I want to experience that feeling again but it's been hard to get out of the hamster wheel to be completely honest.

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You were into e-commerce right?
E-commerce and wholesale. It wasn't a fancy operation. Basically import product X from the US, advertise on Facebook and fulfil orders.

I'd also reach out to other sellers on Facebook and try to sell them the product at a lower price.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Love the money, but don't really enjoy what I do. Had a pretty big project end last month and now I'm just coasting until they put me on the next big thing. Been with my current employer for almost 5 years now so might need a change. But it's probably the same everywhere in the IT world.
More or less the same, I think. I've only been at one fintech company, but Instagram memes tell me it's all the same shit. From my side it's things like scope creep and product/sales almost deliberately lying about what was promised to customers.

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I think it is work related. I've been at my job for 2 and a half years and I'm already massively bored.

When I had my own little business I didn't mind getting up at 5 am on a Sunday to get work done. I wasn't rich but I felt free. I want to experience that feeling again but it's been hard to get out of the hamster wheel to be completely honest.

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E-commerce and wholesale. It wasn't a fancy operation. Basically import product X from the US, advertise on Facebook and fulfil orders.

I'd also reach out to other sellers on Facebook and try to sell them the product at a lower price.
You have the hustle to do it for sure. That work boredom is crushing though.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Europe doesn't have mosquitoes? Shiet, I killed like eight already this morning.
my garden has been unbearable lately, you'll get a bite within seconds

luxembourg though, very different. we visited last summer and i noticed within the first hour that there are no window screens at all. i thought i could suggest to my buddy who lives there to start a business, every neighbor would be a potential client. and then we never saw a single mosquito lol
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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I like it, for the most part.

The hours are long and days are busy, but the work is interesting and challenging, the pay is good and the benefits are excellent.
This is the most American thing I've read all month. Congrats.

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@Quetzalcoatl do you still feel mosquito bites? I did when I was a kid but I'm pretty much immune now. I only feel them if I go near a river in the Amazon.

I've never felt a mosquito bite in the UK or mainland Europe. Midges though, those cocksuckers bite hard.
 
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swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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are you one of those euros who doesn't have a screen in your window?
It is definitely a thing in Europe.

I even asked about it with locals recently, because I couldn't get over why nobody in this country wants to bother with a simple screen here in Portugal.

Yes, there aren't that many mosquitos here in general. Unless you're a wannabe French idiot and are paying hand-over-fist to live in the designer developments of Comporta, right next to the rice fields (= mosquito plague).

But when I asked folks about the lack of screens across Portugal, they gave me the most French answer: "They don't look good."

I've seen motherfuckers in the Amazon bite through jeans.
Perhaps my biggest mosquito horror story was reading about a spike in malaria cases around New Delhi while I was on a flight there from SF and I didn't take any anti-malarial pills beforehand that time.

You land at 3am at Indira Gandhi Airport, as you always do, and I get in a cab to go to the hotel.

Cabbie has his windows rolled up in the damp heat of a pre-monsoon night and locked them shut from up front. In the back I start getting assaulted by this mosquito buzzing like a chainsaw, I can't open the windows, and I'm doing my best Jackie Chan karate moves standing on the back seat trying to take it out before I get bit. Because I ain't starting my two weeks in India recovering from malaria.

I've been thinking about this lately. How do you all currently feel about your careers?
Right now, really good. I left my full-time job at the end of the year, worked out a lot of financial math on my cost of living and what I could make off investments, and I'm pretty much pre-retired if I want to be. Freedom to do whatever I want now. F the man.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Cabbie has his windows rolled up in the damp heat of a pre-monsoon night and locked them shut from up front. In the back I start getting assaulted by this mosquito buzzing like a chainsaw, I can't open the windows, and I'm doing my best Jackie Chan karate moves standing on the back seat trying to take it out before I get bit. Because I ain't starting my two weeks in India recovering from malaria.
I believe that in Asia there's also the lifelong risk of recurrence after some types of malaria notably with the Plasmodium vivax parasite. Where in Africa the risk for that particular type is much lower as most Africans appear to be immune. Not really sure if that's accurate though. It's just what I was told by a doctor, because I had a couple of bouts with malaria as a toddler in Africa and was curious if it could have implications today.

As for the screens: they do exist in Europe of course and lots of people have them, but I always feel like there are a lot more mosquitoes on other continents and that might lead to them being non-negotiable there.

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Right now, really good. I left my full-time job at the end of the year, worked out a lot of financial math on my cost of living and what I could make off investments, and I'm pretty much pre-retired if I want to be. Freedom to do whatever I want now. F the man.
You should preach the FIRE gospel now.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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@swag I have a neighbor down the street who is planning on applying for lifetime Visa in Portugal just in case things go south here. She's been to Portugal several times and absolutely loves it, so now I'm intrigued. But she doesn't have any family or ancestry there. How difficult is it for a complete outsider to get this Visa in Portugal?
 

swag

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@swag I have a neighbor down the street who is planning on applying for lifetime Visa in Portugal just in case things go south here. She's been to Portugal several times and absolutely loves it, so now I'm intrigued. But she doesn't have any family or ancestry there. How difficult is it for a complete outsider to get this Visa in Portugal?
Andries jokes about FIRE. I didn't quite go for that myself, but it kinda conveniently happened when I looked at my cost of living, my life priorities, my resources, and did the math. I'm still in my 50s, so why not? And living in Portugal, the cost of living does allow me to do that way earlier than I could living in the U.S.

Portugal has the D7 visa, "a passive income residency visa", which I could qualify for myself now if I wasn't married to a Porkchop already. There are also retirement and digital nomad long-term visas. I know a number of people who are here on D7s. (I came on an EU family reunion visa given my wife's citizenship.) They seem relatively straightforward to get if you qualify. The '"golden visa" angle also exists, though they've clamped down on some of the cases that were abused more (i.e., buying expensive apartments in major cities as the qualifying investment).

All of them I think offer paths to citizenship. That said, I started my own citizenship application over 5 years ago as the wife of a citizen and I am still waiting. And of the people I've heard applying for citizenship here, it still remains mythical and not factual. I have yet to meet a single new citizen. But the bureaucracy is real and I could just be a matter of another year or so.

But I have essentially a permanent residency at least, a "green card". And sometimes that can count for more than citizenship. (Just ask any Canadian citizen trying to buy property in Canada but haven't been living in the country for a while: non-citizen residents can sometimes have more rights than non-resident citizens.) And I really do enjoy the life here. As they say, Portugal is an amazing place to live and a horrible place to work. So once you got the work situation settled...

Pros:
-if your ideal in life is eating grilled fish with friends and a bottle of Portuguese wine at the beach and watching the sunset, you are in heaven
-healthcare is excellent... cost aside, I like it better than U.S. healthcare even if there can be fewer choices of medications that are available here, etc. Americans are addicted for having 47 choices of everything, and here you may get 1-3.
-people are awesome. Which helps because this is a people-first, transaction-second culture. Portuguese are also generally the most chill Europeans I know.
-generally Western European-level infrastructure at an Eastern European price
-cost of living is getting higher, but it's dope compared to the U.S.
-insanely safe by American standards. Women can walk home from the train at night at 11pm and generally not be worried about it. (You still need to be smart of course.)

Cons:
-most of the dog walkers in your neighborhood get paid more than most people here
-more to the south of the country, people still smoke cigarettes quite a bit and haven't gotten the memo
-super polite people get their therapy here as demonic monsters when behind the wheel
-people are incapable of handling their dogs here
-none of the instant gratification conveniences of the U.S. where entire industries are set up to sell and ship you things within 24 hours before you even thought about them; but I have come to personally see this more as a pro rather than a con
-while it's easy to make expat friends, making friends with natives is harder ... and critical, since then you really get to know the country and how things work
 
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