What Are You Doing Right Now? (172 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

 

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Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

You'd be far from the first person I've heard say that.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

You'd be far from the first person I've heard say that.

It's rough on these streets.

 

[Fr3sh]

It's rough on these streets.

You got this broski, it'll work out soon.

 

[Enron]

Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

Is it possible to work and go to school? I found a program that caters to working learners and it’s been very rewarding.

 

[ALC]

Yeah work and school is doable if you do it part time. That way your work can even pay for some of it

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I've considered it. I get a lot of spontaneous overtime, as well as mandatory during the end of the month. I'm just afraid of suffering in both because neither can get my full focus at that point. Though I hate my job I still make sure I do everything well

 

[Enron]

Yeah work and school is doable if you do it part time. That way your work can even pay for some of it

I was asking for him personally. I do both, full time.

 

[.zero]

Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

You have to do it man

I understand that the financial commitment is large but there is ROI on the other side

 

[Goodfella]

Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

Back to college?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Back to college?

Yes. Or maybe a programming bootcamp, but I would have to research those more because I've been reading mixed things.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Very seriously considering just straight up quitting my job in a few months to go back to school, as there just doesn't seem to be a way forward the way things are now. It's so intimidating though, I would have to give up everything I have and spend a large amount of money for the hope of more money and opportunity on the other side. If it doesn't work out, then I'm just fucked.

You're investing in yourself. It's can't be a bad thing even if you struggle finding a job after you graduate. You'll compete with younger kids and them boys got the upper hand. However, you'll have experience in your pocket which grands you advantage.

You'll come out smarter with knowledge in your hands so it can only be a good thing. Plus you might even meet some people there. Such environment is always good for getting connections and numbers.

The more time passes the more BA degree is a must. Like 10-15 years when everyone was speaking highly about high-school now things have changed and university is like a must even for some mediocre jobs. I don't think you're doing a bad thing. There's some risk, maybe, but higher is staying where you are or quitting your job in 5-10 years where you have kids run over you when it comes to applying for something good/better.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yes. Or maybe a programming bootcamp, but I would have to research those more because I've been reading mixed things.

What is a programming bootcamp? Is that a non college alternative that can actually land one of those jobs?

 

[Goodfella]

Yes. Or maybe a programming bootcamp, but I would have to research those more because I've been reading mixed things.

What's your view on the popular opinion that college is a scam?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

You're investing in yourself. It's can't be a bad thing even if you struggle finding a job after you graduate. You'll compete with younger kids and them boys got the upper hand. However, you'll have experience in your pocket which grands you advantage.

You'll come out smarter with knowledge in your hands so it can only be a good thing. Plus you might even might some people there. Such environment is always good for getting connections and numbers.

The more time passes the more BA degree is a must. Like 10-15 years when everyone was speaking highly about high-school now things have changed and university is like a must even for some mediocre jobs. I don't think you're doing a bad thing. There's some risk, maybe, but higher is staying where you are or quitting your job in 5-10 years where you have kids run over you when it comes to applying for something good/better.

I already have a BA in Economics and a BS in Finance, but I'm so disillusioned with the finance industry at this point that I don't even see a Master's degree as worth it. To me it seems, in this industry you either need to know someone or have a very good start in terms of getting relevant work experience. I'm talking starting in high school.

Don't you also have an economics degree?

 

[Dostoevsky]

I already have a BA in Economics and a BS in Finance, but I'm so disillusioned with the finance industry at this point that I don't even see a Master's degree as worth it. To me it seems, in this industry you either need to know someone or have a very good start in terms of getting relevant work experience. I'm talking starting in high school.

Don't you also have an economics degree?

Why don't you get MA in management and chase IT sector? Project managers do earn quite a lot.

Yeah, I have an economics degree. But over here everything is fucked up. It's programming what gets paid here but even that carries some type of risk as not everyone can make it. Plus, getting a degree in programming is certainly not for everybody.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

What is a programming bootcamp? Is that a non college alternative that can actually land one of those jobs?

Basically. They tend to be cheaper overall as well.

What's your view on the popular opinion that college is a scam?

For the most part, yes I would say so in terms of how young adults are lead on with false promises. I would also say that it's almost a requirement at this point though. It seems to be only truly beneficial from an employment standpoint if you know what you want to do from the beginning, and can be highly focused in it in terms of what classes you take and what your major is called. Employers seem to want hyper-specific experience when hiring (i.e. want to be a junior analyst? Need 1-2 years of analyst experience already, accounting experience for junior accountant, etc). You can mitigate this somewhat with how you market yourself, but it'll only take you so far.

I'm just basing this on the finance industry mind you, since that's what I have exposure to.

 

[Goodfella]

Basically. They tend to be cheaper overall as well.


For the most part, yes I would say so in terms of how young adults are lead on with false promises. I would also say that it's almost a requirement at this point though. It seems to be only truly beneficial from an employment standpoint if you know what you want to do from the beginning, and can be highly focused in it in terms of what classes you take and what your major is called. Employers seem to want hyper-specific experience when hiring (i.e. want to be a junior analyst? Need 1-2 years of analyst experience already, accounting experience for junior accountant, etc). You can mitigate this somewhat with how you market yourself, but it'll only take you so far.

I'm just basing this on the finance industry mind you, since that's what I have exposure to.

Since we're on this topic I recommend you read some books by Bodo Schäfer. It really provokes thoughts about how you approach finance and your economy in general. Outside the box mentality that is not taught in school.

Napoleon Hill seems to have some interesting works in that field too. But I have personally yet to read any.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Why don't you get MA in management and chase IT sector? Project managers do earn quite a lot.

Yeah, I have an economics degree. But over here everything is fucked up. It's programming what gets paid here but even that carries some type of risk as not everyone can make it. Plus, getting a degree in programming is certainly not for everybody.

From what I understand (I could be wrong), a MA without experience behind it is kinda useless, you would still have to start at the bottom. Maybe this is just a New York thing though, competition is intense for everything here. They do make good money though, I have a friend that was looking into that path.

Exactly why I was looking into bootcamps. I don't think I could get a computer science degree in all honesty, no way I could get passed calculus I and II, but coding is a skill and I'm sure I can develop it. And depending on the language like SQL or Python, you can leverage it to get an analyst role or something. You're absolutely right about it not being for everyone though, that's why it kinda bothers me when people push it onto others so much.

 

[Dostoevsky]

From what I understand (I could be wrong), a MA without experience behind it is kinda useless, you would still have to start at the bottom. Maybe this is just a New York thing though, competition is intense for everything here. They do make good money though, I have a friend that was looking into that path.

Exactly why I was looking into bootcamps. I don't think I could get a computer science degree in all honesty, no way I could get passed calculus I and II, but coding is a skill and I'm sure I can develop it. And depending on the language like SQL or Python, you can leverage it to get an analyst role or something. You're absolutely right about it not being for everyone though, that's why it kinda bothers me when people push it onto others so much.

Sooner or later programming will get oversaturated and people will earn less. Way too many people are into it now. And it's kinda silly, majority just thinks about the movie and not about the part where you might be doing a job you fucking hate for the next 30 years.

SQL is boring as shit IMO but I don't think you need a degree for that. You can learn quite a lot even online.