Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
I already applied there :D I know. That's at least what they say. But even if they offer a job they ask to be relocated outside of Belgrade btw (at least they offered that to my friend).
Yeah, they their policy is you can't work in the city you live, at least not in the beginning. Actually they are pretty strange in some way fucked up Bank, but you know beggars can't be choosers :D
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Having been part of many asylum requests, I must say that in the vast majority of cases the requirements for political asylum are not met. And there are definitely immigrants who just want to receive benefits. Quite a lot actually. The question is whether or not you can really hold it against them. You have lots of people who were born in Europe and do the same. The discriminating factor is your nationality and that is hardly justifiable. As a concept borders are an imperfect yet, for now, necessary system.
I never said that immigrants explointing the welfare system don't exist, but at least in Austria it's a fact that immigrants on the whole pay more into the system than they receive. And the whole argument is often nothing more than cynical with this recent wave of immigrants, who are legitimitely fleeing war.

With the requests, they're often delibirately delayed as to not allow the families of the asylum seekers to join them. That and problems concerning the Dublin convention (stating that every immigrant is the responsility of the land they first stepped foot on in the EU, which basically leaves it all to Italy, Spain & Greece), which as a whole is incredibly flawed and should be changed as soon as possible imo.

:tup:

No sane person wants more taxes just to feed an influx of immigrants. Hell, taxes in general are garbage. Individuals are already taxed to death in the West and what good does it do? Nothing...

Oh come on, now you're not even trying anymore.

education? no one needs to go to college.

health care? stop regulating it
Not sure what exactly you're referring to with unregulating health care, but in general public healthcare simply is the only system that has consistently worked very effectively in dozens of cases, while I don't know of a single instance in human history where private insurance schemes have actually been able to provide coverage for an entire society. Of course it never having been succesful in the past in no way means that it won't ever be able to work in the future, but it's a pretty solid indicator imo, especially considering that I'm also yet to hear of a viable theoretical model involving private health insurance that doesn't include a sizeable portion of society being left uncovered.

Concerning education, I see what you're trying to get at, but that's not primarily an issue of private vs. public (tertiary) education, but mostly about whether a lot of the college courses nowadays actually make sense. And while there's some truth to that in my opinion as well, it's still a fact that pretty much every job position of higher quality requires college degrees, so private universities & tuition fees simply add a lot to hereditary poverty & inequality, and leads to a shitton of wasted potential.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,795
Thanks for the hint. :lol:
only use beer if you dont have vodka though.

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I never said that immigrants explointing the welfare system don't exist, but at least in Austria it's a fact that immigrants on the whole pay more into the system than they receive. And the whole argument is often nothing more than cynical with this recent wave of immigrants, who are legitimitely fleeing war.

With the requests, they're often delibirately delayed as to not allow the families of the asylum seekers to join them. That and problems concerning the Dublin convention (stating that every immigrant is the responsility of the land they first stepped foot on in the EU, which basically leaves it all to Italy, Spain & Greece), which as a whole is incredibly flawed and should be changed as soon as possible imo.




Oh come on, now you're not even trying anymore.



Not sure what exactly you're referring to with unregulating health care, but in general public healthcare simply is the only system that has consistently worked very effectively in dozens of cases, while I don't know of a single instance in human history where private insurance schemes have actually been able to provide coverage for an entire society. Of course it never having been succesful in the past in no way means that it won't ever be able to work in the future, but it's a pretty solid indicator imo, especially considering that I'm also yet to hear of a viable theoretical model involving private health insurance that doesn't include a sizeable portion of society being left uncovered.

Concerning education, I see what you're trying to get at, but that's not primarily an issue of private vs. public (tertiary) education, but mostly about whether a lot of the college courses nowadays actually make sense. And while there's some truth to that in my opinion as well, it's still a fact that pretty much every job position of higher quality requires college degrees, so private universities & tuition fees simply add a lot to hereditary poverty & inequality, and leads to a shitton of wasted potential.
there is no arguing with these guys, stop it bro.
its a lost case. :sergio:
of course you are right though. :tup:
 

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