Red

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@Red a question about Aberdeen - Glasgow looks like a Yes whitewash. Not just the turnout today and at the weekend, but people about with stickers and badges, with 'twibbons' on their facebook picture and posters/signs in car and flat windows everywhere you look there are Yes signs outnumbering No by 5 to 1.

How does it look in Aberdeen?
Aberdeen will be close and my guess is that it'll probably closely mirror whatever the overall result is.

That's not based on a great deal - just a gut feeling.

I take it as a scot you hate this movie (the world thinking its an authentic telling of scottish history lol)
I don't hate the film.

I don't even hate that people think that it's true.

It's very useful when you are listening to someone who clearly thinks it's true as it means you can instantly stop listening to them on the grounds of them being an utter cretin.
 

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Aberdeen will be close.

More money means more people are satisfied with the status quo (or at least feel they potentially have something to lose).



I don't hate the film.

I don't even hate that people think that it's true.

It's very useful when you are listening to someone who clearly thinks it's true as it means you can instantly stop listening to them on the grounds of them being an utter cretin.
:lol:

The Battle of Stirling Bridge won by brilliant tactics which focused on the actual bridge. In Braveheart it happens in a field :rofl: It won the Best Film Oscar :lol: :lol:

Seriously though it's a good film if you don't look at it as an attempt to be historically accurate.

And about Aberdeen that makes sense. Have there been many open rallies or orange walks :)lol:) up there?
 

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And about Aberdeen that makes sense. Have there been many open rallies or orange walks :)lol:) up there?
We don't get Orange walks up here. Would just be a riot.

To be honest, I've been studiously ignoring the activities of both sides because of my dislike of pretty much everyone involved. Don't want current personalites to affect my judgement on a long-term decision.

Hell, I think Salmond is a prick and I it's unfortunate how prominently he will feature in Scotland's history is there is a 'yes' vote.

I know 'Yes' had something down at the Castlegate the other week, but don't know much of what's gone on beyond that.

I've just been pleased the Aberdeen FC support has stuck to it's tradiational non-political position and has not expressed a collective opinion one way or the other, unlike what has gone on at Ibrox and Parkhead (though judging by the AFC fora, Dons fans are heavily pro-Independence).
 

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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We don't get Orange walks up here. Would just be a riot.

To be honest, I've been studiously ignoring the activities of both sides because of my dislike of pretty much everyone involved. Don't want current personalites to affect my judgement on a long-term decision.

Hell, I think Salmond is a prick and I it's unfortunate how prominently he will feature in Scotland's history is there is a 'yes' vote.

I know 'Yes' had something down at the Castlegate the other week, but don't know much of what's gone on beyond that.

I've just been pleased the Aberdeen FC support has stuck to it's tradiational non-political position and has not expressed a collective opinion one way or the other, unlike what has gone on at Ibrox and Parkhead (though judging by the AFC fora, Dons fans are heavily pro-Independence).
There's always been a political/religious element to Celtic and Rangers support and I don't think that can ever really be removed for better or worse.

Fair play, though. Whatever happens I hope this enthusiasm carries over and things are changed for the better. I think we can all agree that things suck right now and need a good shake up.
 

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There's always been a political/religious element to Celtic and Rangers support and I don't think that can ever really be removed for better or worse.
Worse.

Fair play, though. Whatever happens I hope this enthusiasm carries over and things are changed for the better. I think we can all agree that things suck right now and need a good shake up.
Things don't 'suck'.

That's not to say that Scotland shouldn't have ambitions to improve things, though.

The general establishment undoubtedly needs a shake up and they are getting that no matter what the outcome of the vote is.

If it's a 'no' vote and things aren't handled properly, we'll just end up back here having another referendum 20 years down the line, so there is pressure on Westminster to avoid that with what they give Scotland in the event of a 'no'.

But that will then cause an issue in the rest of the UK when people in other areas think they aren't getting as good a deal as Scotland.

Easy to see a 'no' vote being the first step towards some sort of federalism.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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vote yes then invade england, that'll teach them
:lol:

I'd love for Australia to hurry up and have a vote in order to become a republic.
We had a referendum in 1999 and the stupid baby boomers voted to stay as is.

I've no doubt, if a coherent republican movement could be put together, and if we'd have another referendum, we'd vote YES as well.
:agree:

Hopefully soon, but probably not under Tone
 

Bianconero_Aus

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From what I recall the referendum didn't work because people didn't like how a president would then be elected.
That's exactly why it didn't work for the most part. But there was a huge generation of people who couldn't be fucked changing and pretty much thought "whats the point"

Aint no way a referendum will happen under Piss and Moan Tone. He's a fucking monarchist douche fuck. Malcolm Turnbull is a very prominent Liberal Republican tho.
 

Salvo

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Appointed by parliament and not by votes yeah?
Ya.

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That's exactly why it didn't work for the most part. But there was a huge generation of people who couldn't be fucked changing and pretty much thought "whats the point"

Aint no way a referendum will happen under Piss and Moan Tone. He's a fucking monarchist douche fuck. Malcolm Turnbull is a very prominent Liberal Republican tho.
Turnbull wouldve been good.
 

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