IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
100 words, you see that is a lot more concrete than "they are intelligent". But it's a very low measure of intelligence. If you had a son and I told you he could only learn 100 words over his lifetime you'd be a little sad.



If you tell me which of the 100 I can use to say "stfu and stop barking you imbecile" then I will.



Everything good?
Well with my dog, I say 'Hey' and he stops barking unless he's barking because my Dad is home, then he'll just look at me and keep barking.I dunno, Humans are considered 'intelligent' but from this I would think a dog may out preform a toddler in some tasks. It really depends, I believe they have intelligence, not sentience. A poorly behaved dog however is a reflection on the owner and their intelligence I've always thought.


Yeah, everything's fine, just had a regular blood test and then part one of a HBV vaccine, never had a blood test before, don't even know my blood type so I thought I'd better get it sorted.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Well with my dog, I say 'Hey' and he stops barking unless he's barking because my Dad is home, then he'll just look at me and keep barking.I dunno, Humans are considered 'intelligent' but from this I would think a dog may out preform a toddler in some tasks. It really depends, I believe they have intelligence, not sentience. A poorly behaved dog however is a reflection on the owner and their intelligence I've always thought.
I think this intelligent business is largely down to anthropomorphisms. You have the classic scene in a movie where some character has just been through some heart wrenching experience and the dog can see that he's sad so he goes over to comfort him. For a human this behavior is very complicated. If we see someone in a condition like that character we have conflicting thoughts. "Oh he's hurting, I should go comfort him." On the other hand "does he want to be alone, will I only make him uncomfortable?" And then there's meta thinking like "If he'd rather I not go over there it might be because he thinks that I don't understand him." etc etc. So when we watch a movie and we see a scene like this between humans, we're conscious of the complexity of it. But with a dog there's no such thing, dogs respond to emotions, that's it. They only notice physiological factors about. That's also why no human would reject a dog in this scenario, because the dog is a simpleton and doesn't come with the complexity of human interaction.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
True, because it's a dog. It's not AS intelligent as a human but relative to a hamster I should think it is. Dogs can't empathise that's just a fact right there but they can understand as it pertains to the 'pack' and it's cohesive opertain in primitive terms to do with strength and threats much like it's ancestor, the wolf.

People project, they always will, like men and cars.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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now I understand you:) you asshole!:p
Thanks, bitch! :)
I think this intelligent business is largely down to anthropomorphisms. You have the classic scene in a movie where some character has just been through some heart wrenching experience and the dog can see that he's sad so he goes over to comfort him. For a human this behavior is very complicated. If we see someone in a condition like that character we have conflicting thoughts. "Oh he's hurting, I should go comfort him." On the other hand "does he want to be alone, will I only make him uncomfortable?" And then there's meta thinking like "If he'd rather I not go over there it might be because he thinks that I don't understand him." etc etc. So when we watch a movie and we see a scene like this between humans, we're conscious of the complexity of it. But with a dog there's no such thing, dogs respond to emotions, that's it. They only notice physiological factors about. That's also why no human would reject a dog in this scenario, because the dog is a simpleton and doesn't come with the complexity of human interaction.
Damn, Martin. That's deep.
 

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