Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Eℓvin;2287881 said:
It's not as much being scared, as it is wondering wtf is the point anyway.
I mean even the greatest man in history... he's just dead, that's it. I mean, was it worth all the effort for him? He's just dead... might as well not do anything, the outcome is the same.

Nevermind me, I'm just having a bit of an identity crisis, going thru my mid-life crisis in the early 20s it seems...
We cannot know the point, but why do we need to create stories to make us loose the fear.

"is not enough to see the garden is beautiful without believing there are fairies at the bottom"

Dont worry about why we are here, just worry about those that are coming after us, dont be as selfish as some religions teach us (the christian church teaches that we are stewards of the earth and we can take what we without giving anything back, i had that forced on me for 16 years in various schools) and just consider that there will be hundreds of generations that come after us. Not trying to convert you, just want to give you food for though whilst you are struggling with your crisis.
 

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Elvin

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We cannot know the point, but why do we need to create stories to make us loose the fear.

"is not enough to see the garden is beautiful without believing there are fairies at the bottom"

Dont worry about why we are here, just worry about those that are comming after us.
But I do worry (not about why we are here, but why I am), and I do give it thought, and the conclusion I come up with is that I'm just another brick on the wall, and it depresses the shit out of me...
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Eℓvin;2287888 said:
But I do worry (not about why we are here, but why I am), and I do give it thought, and the conclusion I come up with is that I'm just another brick on the wall, and it depresses the shit out of me...
Im sorry you are feeling that way man, :dule:

If you are feeling really depressed it might be worth finding a counselor to talk to. If you dont feel comfortable doing that then it maybe worth making a change in your life, get a new job, move somewhere new, go travelling (def a good idea) etc. Be proactive as opposed to reactive, nothing will change unless you make, i dont know how many other life lessons i can stick in there lol.

This song sorted my head out for me a while back.


Skip to about 45 sec.

A lot of my poems and writings seem to start with me waking up, or being in a dream, or dream like state. Now, this implies a certain level of abstraction in my work.. You might say I'm keeping it surreal but.. I'd rather you didn't. Fact is. I sleep a lot. It's as simple as that. I like sleepin' man. It's a nice place to be.

...Right

I was walking along through unfamiliar streets,
And it felt strange 'cause there didn't seem to be anyone else around.
I don't know where I was but it had a feeling of New York,
But not New York in real life the New York you see in old films,
I can't really explain why it just had that vibe,
Every step I took felt somehow more dramatic.

So I kept walking and down an alley behind a bar sitting on some metal steps I saw a man,
From the look and smell of him it was clear that he enjoyed a drink,
But he wasn't in such a state I felt him to be any kind of irrational threat so I approached him,
With due care..

"Ah Mr Pip" he said out loud,
"We've been awaiting you, my name is Elwood P. Dowd",
Now just what he meant by 'we' I didn't really get,
But all the same I took a seat next to him on the step,
He said "You'll meet a few people before this day is through,
Who will administer advice and guidelines to you,
Now what each of them says I'll tell you now is true,
But whether or not you take this advice is for you to choose",
At that point he acted as if someone had whispered in his ear,
Which, since noone else was there, was pretty damn weird,
Awkwardly I looked away and kinda played with my beard,
And he cleared his throat for a second and said "Listen here,
In this life you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant,
For years I was smart, I reccommend pleasant,
Being smart can make you rich and bring respect and reverence,
But the rewards of being pleasant are far more incandescent",

With this information I was encouraged to walk on,
I continued alone through these empty streets,
Thinking over what Elwood had said but at the same time thinking about how fucking strange the day had been so far,
I was in my own little world when a hand was placed on my chest,
And a guy said "Look out, there's some broken glass on the floor there",

I looked up,
He said "Hi, pleased to meet you, my name is Lloyd Dobler,
I'll get straight to the point, won't take too much time from ya,
I'm probably the youngest person you'll get advice from today,
And you may think that a guy my age wouldn't have anything to say,
But it's said that observation, not old age, brings wisdom,
And I observe every single life lesson I'm given,
I won't attempt tell you how to love or be loved,
Because you get a different genie each time that lantern is rubbed,
But I will offer you advice on dealing with life,
Its ups and its downs,
Its troubles and its strifes,
Now I'm sure you've had times when you've felt down or angry,
Wanted to lash out, punch a wall and be manly,
But the question I pose now will offer you a plan B,
And maybe some peace and quiet for your friends and family,
How hard is it to decide to be in a good mood,
And then just be.. in.. a good mood?
That's all I have to say because it's a straight up fact,
You control your emotions it's as simple as that",
He walked off then, leaving me to contemplate this brief encounter,
I'd barely had time to realise I was being taught something before he was gone,
And I was back on my way.

On I walked and almost immediately I spotted the next guide,
And he couldn't be clearer.
This guy was standing on the street corner and pacing back and forth,
Skinny lookin' guy leather jacket tight jeans, retro look,
I'd rarely seen someone look quite so uncomfortable in their own skin,
Twitchin', smoothing his hair back, kicking the floor and looking up and down the street,
He clearly didn't enjoy waiting around so I approached him quickly,
To put him out of his misery,
And to let him start his.. spiel.

"Hi my name is Billy Brown,
I ain't gonna give you some quote,
Instead I'm gonna use some stuff that YOU wrote:
'Always had the feeling I could never be the villain,
Cause the villain in the books is always backlit,
Always had the feeling I could never be the villain,
Cause the villain in the books is always backlit,
Now I find it pleasing to defend myself with reason,
But this clock is always sitting on my back,
tick, tick tick,
Then, no explosion but participants errosion,
Like a picture over overly exposed and,
Like a fox that's been run over in the road and..'
Basically what I'm trying to say to you is,
You don't achieve anything by letting the past rule within you,
Getting all pent up and angry about stuff just eats away inside you,
What's that other line of yours..
'If you can't forgive and forget,
How's this,
Forget forgivin' and just accept that that's it',
See that's how it's gotta be.
Then you can fall in love, get on with your life and be free",
Almost before he could finished this sentence he was off down the street,
Hands in his pockets, hurrying away..

Now quite accepting of the totally surreal time I was having I rounded a corner,
And continued onto my next encounter,
Resigned to the fact this was some dream or hallucination,
I made my way through the now dark street,
To the one window that had a light on,
I walked through the unlocked door which incidentally had blinds down,
And a sillhouetted figure like a film noir scene,
But sadly no sign saying Private Eye.
As I entered a voice promptly said..

"This journey's almost over, I'm the only one left,
Allow me to introduce myself; my name is Walter Nepp,
The other guys have taught you things of great positive worth,
But I'm afraid I'm here to bring you back down to Earth,
See you can live your life in control and be nice,
But even that will not promise you a happy life,
You may think yourself in general to be a nice guy,
But I'm telling you now - that right there is a lie,
Even the nicest of guys has some nasty within 'em,
You don't have to be backlit to be the villain,
Whether it be greed lust or just plain vindictiveness,
There's a level of benevolence inside all of us,
You can paint yourself an image and live in your own little dream,
But this ain't a dream, it's one big silver screen,
So when you think you've got your happy ending don't ever forget it,
It ain't over til you hear the sound of your end credits,
You'll be waiting for the beat to kick in,
But it never does,
Waiting for you feet to grow wings,
That lift you above,
All of these tiresome things,
That you know and love,
Waiting for the beat to kick in,
But it never does.

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You'd better not be sarcastic!
 

Dragon

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Apr 24, 2003
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I am out guys to meet some friends at the cafe.



It is so good, I just at like 6 pieces.
By the way this whole salsa dance thing was a disaster and I should stick to the lebanese dabkeh/belly dancing :D
I want a piece soooooo bad!!!!

It was??? You gotta tell me all about it when you come back! :)
 
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    I think most people celebrate Christmas not because of the religious meaning behind it but as an excuse to get together as a family and have dinner (for example in my family that can't be done every other day because of everyone's schedule plus some family members live in another states) ... I'm catholic and I swear sometimes I forget that the birth of Jesus is what's behind this "celebration"
    Jesus was born in October...

    "The earliest evidence of celebration on 25 December of the birth of Jesus is of the year 354 in Rome, and it was only later that the 25 December celebration was adopted in the East, with the exception of Armenia, where his birth is celebrated on 6 January.[39] Indeed there is no month of the year to which respectable authorities have not assigned his birth.[39]"
     

    Dragon

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    Apr 24, 2003
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    ßüякε;2287912 said:
    Jesus was born in October...

    "The earliest evidence of celebration on 25 December of the birth of Jesus is of the year 354 in Rome, and it was only later that the 25 December celebration was adopted in the East, with the exception of Armenia, where his birth is celebrated on 6 January.[39] Indeed there is no month of the year to which respectable authorities have not assigned his birth.[39]"
    True I've heard about that... but who knows what the real date is :undecide:
     

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