What Are You Doing Right Now? (181 Viewers)
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Honestly I don't even know what this argument is about. The way I see this entire Christmas thing is that Catholics (and Christians but I only wanna speak of a religion I know about which is mine) celebrate this time to remember the events that lead to one of the most important things: the birth of Jesus. Since that happened the World has evolved and now Christmas has globalized --I even know Jewish people who put up Xmas trees in their houses and play Secret Santa... I think of this time of an opportunity to get together with my family, when I was younger I liked it more because of all the gifts involved. Holy Week and Easter is a much bigger deal for me as a Catholic though. By the way I'm not a hardcore Catholic, in fact I barely practice my religion nowadays
No, not at all. I think Christians should celebrate Christmas and everyone else who does so should admit that they're hypocrites.
If these people are Christian then I don't know why you want them to stop celebrating Christmas
But who're you fooling? You and I both know the importance of December 24th and 25th is related to Christianity (whether their belief is accurate or not is irrelevant here).
And I'm not even criticizing you for partaking in the celebrations; spending time with your family, showing appreciation, etc etc but you have to admit that by doing so you are being a hypocrite.
If 'we' means Christians, and if you are a Christian then that's fine. I was just referring to the hardcore atheists on here that attack religion all year long and come Dec 25th they label it non denomination gift giving day and join the celebrations. They're not fooling anyone.
If these people are Christian then I don't know why you want them to stop celebrating Christmas
But who're you fooling? You and I both know the importance of December 24th and 25th is related to Christianity (whether their belief is accurate or not is irrelevant here).
And I'm not even criticizing you for partaking in the celebrations; spending time with your family, showing appreciation, etc etc but you have to admit that by doing so you are being a hypocrite.
If 'we' means Christians, and if you are a Christian then that's fine. I was just referring to the hardcore atheists on here that attack religion all year long and come Dec 25th they label it non denomination gift giving day and join the celebrations. They're not fooling anyone.
Tomorrow means nothing to me in respect to religion.
What happeneds after people go to church has NOTHING to do with religion
I challenge you in respect to that to find me somewhere in the bible, or a quote from a pope/arch bishop saying that what the on christmas we must do the following:
1. Eat a big meal with a bird as the center piece
2. Give eachother presents
3. See family and loved ones.
YOU WILL NOT
It has nothing to do with religion after the church services. If i went to church then yes i would be a hypocrite, but what i do has no religious connotations and tbh if i had a choice i would not do anything tomorrow and when my parents have passed i probably wont, i will move that day to another time during the year, but whilst my culture is driven on celebrating that one day to worship the god's of glutony and consumerism i dont have much other choice, i would much rather it were the 6th August or the 16th April, but i dont get to choose when society forces us to SPEND SPEND SPEND.
No, not at all. I think Christians should celebrate Christmas and everyone else who does so should admit that they're hypocrites.
If these people are Christian then I don't know why you want them to stop celebrating Christmas
But who're you fooling? You and I both know the importance of December 24th and 25th is related to Christianity (whether their belief is accurate or not is irrelevant here).
And I'm not even criticizing you for partaking in the celebrations; spending time with your family, showing appreciation, etc etc but you have to admit that by doing so you are being a hypocrite.
If 'we' means Christians, and if you are a Christian then that's fine. I was just referring to the hardcore atheists on here that attack religion all year long and come Dec 25th they label it non denomination gift giving day and join the celebrations. They're not fooling anyone.
If these people are Christian then I don't know why you want them to stop celebrating Christmas
But who're you fooling? You and I both know the importance of December 24th and 25th is related to Christianity (whether their belief is accurate or not is irrelevant here).
And I'm not even criticizing you for partaking in the celebrations; spending time with your family, showing appreciation, etc etc but you have to admit that by doing so you are being a hypocrite.
If 'we' means Christians, and if you are a Christian then that's fine. I was just referring to the hardcore atheists on here that attack religion all year long and come Dec 25th they label it non denomination gift giving day and join the celebrations. They're not fooling anyone.
I didn't grow up in your culture no, but I did grow up around it. I've spent all but 6 years of my life in Europe and North America.
edit: I'm agreeing to disagree. It's day 2 and we're still running in circles like I knew we would
100%
I meant the people who celebrate Christmas but AREN'T Christian.
Ah, I hear ya.
edit: I'm agreeing to disagree. It's day 2 and we're still running in circles like I knew we would
100% I meant the people who celebrate Christmas but AREN'T Christian.
I called people of both sexes Bro/dude etc. I dont discriminate
http://atheism.about.com/od/christmasholidayseason/p/JesusReason.htm read that.
Thats exactly how i see it, notice how in your sentence you did not mention religion once
You should really be questioning why you class yourself as religious then
http://atheism.about.com/od/christmasholidayseason/p/JesusReason.htm read that.
Thats exactly how i see it, notice how in your sentence you did not mention religion once
You should really be questioning why you class yourself as religious then
I called people of both sexes Bro/dude etc. I dont discriminate
http://atheism.about.com/od/christmasholidayseason/p/JesusReason.htm read that.
Thats exactly how i see it, notice how in your sentence you did not mention religion once
You should really be questioning why you class yourself as religious then
http://atheism.about.com/od/christmasholidayseason/p/JesusReason.htm read that.
Thats exactly how i see it, notice how in your sentence you did not mention religion once
You should really be questioning why you class yourself as religious then
I didn't mention religion once because as I said Christmas for me has become a holiday way past religious things and as a Catholic I don't see it as important as Holy Week...
You're arguing dogma with me now and I said that is irrelevant. How they want to celebrate their holiday is their business. Whatever customs and traditions they've picked up over the centuries (the Christian world i.e.) is their business. You're not a Christian anyway so what's it to you? Are you trying to tell me your reasoning is 'hey this is not what the bible, pope, or any bishop has said anyway so what the heck I'll join in!'? That's a bunch of bs if that's the case.
@the bold: No offense but that makes you a weak person. The image you give us is that you're a strong atheist who wants to rid the world of religion for the betterment of it yet you can't resist the temptations of a holiday? I've lived in the West for 18 years and I haven't had a single drop of alcohol...you know why? Because I stand by what I believe in and I try to control my temptations as much as I can.
Similarly you can hate/dislike a Muslim woman all you want for wearing a hijab, but at least she has the courage to wear it in public every time she leaves her home regardless of the reaction she will receive by others. If you can't stand by what you believe than it's nothing but lip service.
Yeah...this is the part that I think is bs.
@the bold: No offense but that makes you a weak person. The image you give us is that you're a strong atheist who wants to rid the world of religion for the betterment of it yet you can't resist the temptations of a holiday? I've lived in the West for 18 years and I haven't had a single drop of alcohol...you know why? Because I stand by what I believe in and I try to control my temptations as much as I can.
Similarly you can hate/dislike a Muslim woman all you want for wearing a hijab, but at least she has the courage to wear it in public every time she leaves her home regardless of the reaction she will receive by others. If you can't stand by what you believe than it's nothing but lip service.
Yeah...this is the part that I think is bs.