What Are You Doing Right Now? (924 Viewers)

[Osman]

Never wanted fresh banned but no symapthy i was banned for last CL Final cause of his whining

Or @Osman maybe

You were banned for being an entitled generalizing asshat, got off lightly too.




I wouldnt wish most people on the deviant insanity ALC and Fr3sh link, but hope its etched to your memory eye.

 

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[IliveForJuve]

I'm feeling so fookin lazy today

 

[Osman]

You’ll love this:

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This was brilliant

 

[Alin]

The conversation here made me somehow click on @Kyle 's profile, never seen something more disgusting/disturbing in my life, like seriously whatdafakkkk that doing on this forum, lmao even 2 girls 1 cup seems lightweight after seeing this... :sick:

Tho, how is it not deleted yet lol

 

[Wittl]

The conversation here made me somehow click on @Kyle 's profile, never seen something more disgusting/disturbing in my life, like seriously whatdafakkkk that doing on this forum, lmao even 2 girls 1 cup seems lightweight after seeing this... :sick:

Tho, how is it not deleted yet lol

Because Kyle still fappin.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Oh, the let down.

So I started getting replies on the e-mails that I sent for publishing my book. I'm getting more and more answers (and info from others) that publishing houses want direct money to cover all of the expenses for publishing. Then, they also take 50% of the profit from which they sell the same book. It seems barely anybody wants to pay on their own, but want author to do so.

It got me thinking. And what a piece of shit. Just lately I saw a woman publish a book. She's older and a director in Montenegro. I saw her promotion and I was like "oh, she's got family, high position, and now a book... damn". And today it turns out that a publishing house that got her book our made a reply to me saying how I need to invest all the money. No wonder literature is dead over here, despite us having one of the best writers in the history (or just amazing). In the end the quality of the book barely even matters cause you have to write it and without thinking just pay for it to get published? What a new low. No wonder Coelho is one the most read authors nowadays. Seriously disgusting. And now I might face a nothing because my parents can't invest into such thing (while selling books wouldn't even make a tiny profit out of it).

 

[Seven]

Oh, the let down.

So I started getting replies on the e-mails that I sent for publishing my book. I'm getting more and more answers (and info from others) that publishing houses want direct money to cover all of the expenses for publishing. Then, they also take 50% of the profit from which they sell the same book. It seems barely anybody wants to pay on their own, but want author to do so.

It got me thinking. And what a piece of shit. Just lately I saw a woman publish a book. She's older and a director in Montenegro. I saw her promotion and I was like "oh, she's got family, high position, and now a book... damn". And today it turns out that a publishing house that got her book our made a reply to me saying how I need to invest all the money. No wonder literature is dead over here, despite us having one of the best writers in the history (or just amazing). In the end the quality of the book barely even matters cause you have to write it and without thinking just pay for it to get published? What a new low. No wonder Coelho is one the most read authors nowadays. Seriously disgusting. And now I might face a nothing because my parents can't invest into such thing (while selling books wouldn't even make a tiny profit out of it).

Lol. The entire point of a publisher is that he takes on the cost of publishing in exchange for part of the profit. Any sort of scheme in which you have to pay to get published and are then forced to split the profit is a rip off.

I'm sure they're selling it to you as if they're going to use their vast network to promote your book, but they won't.

 

[Osman]

Yep what Seven said, the very idea of you paying for all the publishing while they take half the profits is full on insane ripoff. I guess as an unproven novice they trying to take complete advantage on you. But even that has it limits, there is no risk involved when they have no financial investment in taking a chance on your work.

 

[DAiDEViL]

And if you sell it as E-book?

Even if you don't like E-Books (don't like em myself), but the costs have to be way lower.

Lot's of pretty successful e-book sellers on Amazon. I think you have to say goodbye to the idea if making money though, The first book is all about making a name for yourself.

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Better than paying a shitload of money that you might never get back.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Lol. The entire point of a publisher is that he takes on the cost of publishing in exchange for part of the profit. Any sort of scheme in which you have to pay to get published and are then forced to split the profit is a rip off.

I'm sure they're selling it to you as if they're going to use their vast network to promote your book, but they won't.

Yep what Seven said, the very idea of you paying for all the publishing while they take half the profits is full on insane ripoff. I guess as an unproven novice they trying to take complete advantage on you. But even that has it limits, there is no risk involved when they have no financial investment in taking a chance on your work.

I know guys, fucking disgusting.

By the way, there's only one publisher here that lets you have the money. They pay everything and they give you 10% of the profit. That literally means 0.7e per book sold. WHich is also disgusting.

I wouldn't mind making my name out of it, or at least try it. I'd even accept no profit if they cover the expenses. It seems there's no way to publish anything by myself if I don't end up paying a heavy sum for it. And they take half of the profit

And if you sell it as E-book?

Even if you don't like E-Books (don't like em myself), but the costs have to be way lower.

Lot's of pretty successful e-book sellers on Amazon. I think you have to say goodbye to the idea if making money though, The first book is all about making a name for yourself.

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https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/
Sure has it's drawbacks, but for an unknown author it seems like a good start.

I literally know nobody who reads e-books here. I myself don't but that's not even the point. THAT thing is not popular here and I already I wouldn't sell any, unlike print version which people love a lot more.

Oh and also, publishing e-book in Serbian would be even a bigger disaster.

 

[DAiDEViL]

THAT thing is not popular here and I already I wouldn't sell any, unlike print version which people love a lot more.

Oh and also, publishing e-book in Serbian would be even a bigger disaster.

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[pitbull]

I know guys, fucking disgusting.

By the way, there's only one publisher here that lets you have the money. They pay everything and they give you 10% of the profit. That literally means 0.7e per book sold. WHich is also disgusting.

I wouldn't mind making my name out of it, or at least try it. I'd even accept no profit if they cover the expenses. It seems there's no way to publish anything by myself if I don't end up paying a heavy sum for it. And they take half of the profit



I literally know nobody who reads e-books here. I myself don't but that's not even the point. THAT thing is not popular here and I already I wouldn't sell any, unlike print version which people love a lot more.

Oh and also, publishing e-book in Serbian would be even a bigger disaster.

How much would you have to pay per book to release them and keep most of the profits?

IMO that's just how it works in these lines of work, if it was an easy road everyone would want to be an artist not to work as a cashier or plumber. To become a successful professional musician or an actor in a theatre you also have to dedicate hundreds and thousands of hours before you start reaping any serious fruits and that's hardly a guarantee that you will reap any fruits at all.

 

[Seven]

How much would you have to pay per book to release them and keep most of the profits?

IMO that's just how it works in these lines of work, if it was an easy road everyone would want to be an artist not to work as a cashier or plumber. To become a successful professional musician or an actor in a theatre you also have to dedicate hundreds and thousands of hours before you start reaping any serious fruits and that's hardly a guarantee that you will reap any fruits at all.

That's not how it works. There would be 0 risk involved for the publisher, while they get half of the potentional profits. That makes no sense.

 

[pitbull]

That's not how it works. There would be 0 risk involved for the publisher, while they get half of the potentional profits. That makes no sense.

But obviously that's how it works in that particular market where the amount of writers clearly exceed the demand for books. If it wasn't so, publishers would be more concerned about losing a potential asset.

For 2 years I took a road to become an opera singer and trust me, it takes a lot of dedication, sacrifice and years of lack of money to pull it off. I gave it up understanding that I'd need to climb the first steps of the ladder for like 6-8 years more and that I want to provide for my family without working 2 jobs for the next decade. It would seem that not a lot of people are interested in this kind of deal, yet the competition is super fierce and there are many talented guys going at it, because it's one of those jobs everyone would love to do. I believe it's similar for writers, actors etc

 

[Monty]

Print a few copies and send it around to generate some buzz...then maybe run a kickstarter campaign to raise some funds
@Dostoevsky

 

[Seven]

But obviously that's how it works in that particular market where the amount of writers clearly exceed the demand for books. If it wasn't so, publishers would be more concerned about losing a potential asset.

For 2 years I took a road to become an opera singer and trust me, it takes a lot of dedication, sacrifice and years of lack of money to pull it off. I gave it up understanding that I'd need to climb the first steps of the ladder for like 6-8 years more and that I want to provide for my family without working 2 jobs for the next decade. It would seem that not a lot of people are interested in this kind of deal, yet the competition is super fierce and there are many talented guys going at it, because it's one of those jobs everyone would love to do. I believe it's similar for writers, actors etc

Sure. But that's not the issue here. The role of a publisher is to take the financial risk of publishing. Because a publisher has more capital than a writer, he is able to take that risk. Obviously nothing is free though and in exchange for that financial risk, the publisher gets part of the profit.

If the publisher isn't paying the cost of publishing, he's not really doing anything. So why on Earth would you give him part of the profit?

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Print a few copies and send it around to generate some buzz...then maybe run a kickstarter campaign to raise some funds
@Dostoevsky

@Dostoevsky, you should tell the world you have spent the better part of the last 10 years sodomizing stillborn children, but now you have also written a book in an effort to gain enough money to have stillborn children from all over the world flown to Serbia.

 

[pitbull]

Sure. But that's not the issue here. The role of a publisher is to take the financial risk of publishing. Because a publisher has more capital than a writer, he is able to take that risk. Obviously nothing is free though and in exchange for that financial risk, the publisher gets part of the profit.

If the publisher isn't paying the cost of publishing, he's not really doing anything. So why on Earth would you give him part of the profit?

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@Dostoevsky, you should tell the world you have spent the better part of the last 10 years sodomizing stillborn children, but now you have also written a book in an effort to gain enough money to have stillborn children from all over the world flown to Serbia.

The publisher offers those shitty terms because other writers probably agree to something similar, I don't think every publisher in Serbia have secretely agreed to make fun of Dusan. My guess is it's probably a lot cheaper to put together, print and distribute a book through a publisher not by yourself + you reach a broader audience at first.

What Im trying to say Dusan is that it's not so much Serbia thats fucked as the whole job market when it comes to artist professions, it's the same elsewhere too, too many people willing to do everything for nothing

 

[Seven]

The publisher offers those shitty terms because other writers probably agree to something similar, I don't think every publisher in Serbia have secretely agreed to make fun of Dusan. My guess is it's probably a lot cheaper to put together, print and distribute a book through a publisher not by yourself + you reach a broader audience at first

Or... They're just ripping him off.

 

[Dostoevsky]

First time I hear about it. But I just heard about Createspace too.

I... like it.

The one thing that I don't like is this: shipping. It seems I'd have to pay $17.99 (10 coppies) to get books in 31 business days.

That's ordering my own book. It takes 31 business days to get here? That sounds weird and a lot, no?

 

[DAiDEViL]

Don't know about createspace, but books on Amazon, sold through amazon, usually ship for free afaik.