What Are You Doing Right Now? (267 Viewers)

[Osman]

Juicy avatar for another sucker victim of mine in Matt, ideas?

You were the master who made the avatar I gave nick, no? The shirt with some model on he wore edited with dolphin head? It's that kind of ideas I want Or was it piotrr who made it.

 

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[Völler]

Juicy avatar for another sucker victim of mine in Matt, ideas?

You were the master who made the avatar I gave nick, no? The shirt with some model on he wore edited with dolphin head? It's that kind of ideas I want Or was it piotrr who made it.

This avatar:

I can't remember if it was my idea or not. piotrr definitely made it though, so he probably deserves the credit.

 

[Osman]

Yeah it was piottr but don't remember if it was your idea or the dolphin craze you started was so strong then that piottr came up with it lol.

 

[Völler]

Yeah it was piottr but don't remember if it was your idea or the dolphin craze you started was so strong then that piottr came up with it lol.

Yeah, I think he was probably just one of several people with dolphatars at that point. Some picked the avatars themselves, some not. RUS having to use this as his avatar was sweet.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah, I think he was probably just one of several people with dolphatars at that point. Some picked the avatars themselves, some not. RUS having to use this as his avatar was sweet.

https://www.rt.com/news/342897-denmark-transgender-mental-illnesses/

Please discuss

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

https://www.rt.com/news/342897-denmark-transgender-mental-illnesses/

Please discuss

Do you think it's a mental illness?

 

[Völler]

https://www.rt.com/news/342897-denmark-transgender-mental-illnesses/

Please discuss

Are you appalled? Or do you want RUS' opinion since you are linking to Russian newspapers.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Do you think it's a mental illness?

I'm not qualified, but if it's not an illness why does it need medical attention?

Are you appalled? Or do you want RUS' opinion since you are linking to Russian newspapers.

I want your opinion on your country doing away with science and becoming tumblrs bitch

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm not qualified, but if it's not an illness why does it need medical attention?




I want your opinion on your country doing away with science and becoming tumblrs bitch

You mean like dick surgery and implants and all that? Or treatment for the "disorder"?

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[GordoDeCentral]

You mean like dick surgery and implants and all that? Or treatment for the "disorder"?

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The hormones & the surgeries

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The hormones & the surgeries

Why would that make it a mental illness and not a physiological one? Meaning that it's the body that needs "fixing", not the mind

Not that I don't think it's some kind of disorder

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[Seven]

https://www.rt.com/news/342897-denmark-transgender-mental-illnesses/

Please discuss

Schizophrenics might feel insulted too, but that doesn't change the fact that schizophrenia is a mental illness.

However as long as we're being politically correct it might be safer to see it as a physical condition in which the person was born with the wrong set of genitals. If you classify it as a mental illness, you're also saying that the treatment should focus on the mind. The logical consequence of that is that you'd try and convince transgenders to feel like whatever sex they were born with.

As for this whole transgender thing.. I think if I wanted to be a woman I'd try and wait 20-25 years and hope they come up with better surgeries / better hormone therapies. Ideally you'd want some sort of procedure that makes you 100% a biological woman. As it stands now you just end up as a freak, I'll never understand why someone would want that.

 

[Völler]

I want your opinion on your country doing away with science and becoming tumblrs bitch

I don't see the issue with the new law. But I guess I haven't considered what the definition of an illness is. Besides the definition issue, do you think it's an issue that transgender people get accepted?

 

[Seven]

I don't see the issue with the new law. But I guess I haven't considered what the definition of an illness is. Besides the definition issue, do you think it's an issue that transgender people get accepted?

You know, my weird utopian view of the future is a place where everyone gets to choose what they look like and you get to change that during your lifetime. As if you'd be picking out a character for an RPG. So in that sense I am completely accepting of transgenders. But that is not where we are right now. Right now we're at a stage where people are trading perfectly healthy well functioning bodies for a body that will need constant hormone therapy and medical attention. I'm not entirely sure we need to push that as much as we do.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Why would that make it a mental illness and not a physiological one? Meaning that it's the body that needs "fixing", not the mind

Not that I don't think it's some kind of disorder

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Maybe because theres nothing physiologically wrong with the person

Schizophrenics might feel insulted too, but that doesn't change the fact that schizophrenia is a mental illness.

However as long as we're being politically correct it might be safer to see it as a physical condition in which the person was born with the wrong set of genitals. If you classify it as a mental illness, you're also saying that the treatment should focus on the mind. The logical consequence of that is that you'd try and convince transgenders to feel like whatever sex they were born with.

As for this whole transgender thing.. I think if I wanted to be a woman I'd try and wait 20-25 years and hope they come up with better surgeries / better hormone therapies. Ideally you'd want some sort of procedure that makes you 100% a biological woman. As it stands now you just end up as a freak, I'll never understand why someone would want that.

Per that logic anorexia is not an illness and we need to cater to their choice

I don't see the issue with the new law. But I guess I haven't considered what the definition of an illness is. Besides the definition issue, do you think it's an issue that transgender people get accepted?

As long as a person doesn't break the law at no point should their rights be infringed upon, but I'm just perplexed that we are even looking into changing definitions to accommodate the perception of reality of a select few

 

[Ocelot]

You know, my weird utopian view of the future is a place where everyone gets to choose what they look like and you get to change that during your lifetime. As if you'd be picking out a character for an RPG. So in that sense I am completely accepting of transgenders. But that is not where we are right now. Right now we're at a stage where people are trading perfectly healthy well functioning bodies for a body that will need constant hormone therapy and medical attention. I'm not entirely sure we need to push that as much as we do.

If it makes them happier, why not? No one can give you any guarantees about the medical possibilities of the future either.

 

[Seven]

Per that logic anorexia is not an illness and we need to cater to their choice

That's a false analogy. Transgenders are clearly saying that they have a (physical) disorder. They were born with the wrong body. Someone with anorexia often claims there is nothing wrong.

 

[Völler]

You know, my weird utopian view of the future is a place where everyone gets to choose what they look like and you get to change that during your lifetime. As if you'd be picking out a character for an RPG. So in that sense I am completely accepting of transgenders. But that is not where we are right now. Right now we're at a stage where people are trading perfectly healthy well functioning bodies for a body that will need constant hormone therapy and medical attention. I'm not entirely sure we need to push that as much as we do.

But what's the alternative? If people want to change gender, knowing the limitations of the procedure and the questionable result, then who am I to tell them no. It's difficult when you're not able to relate to this kind of thing, but I don't see how labeling being transgender a mental illness or forbidding sex change operations is going to help the individuals who feel a need to change sex.

 

[Seven]

If it makes them happier, why not? No one can give you any guarantees about the medical possibilities of the future either.

Of course not. But that wasn't my point. My point is that you are not getting a healthy body in return and that you are still nothing like the man/woman you want to be. If it makes them happy to become freaks, I don't mind them doing so at all. But I fail to understand how anyone could make this choice and think it's a good idea.

 

[Völler]

That's a false analogy. Transgenders are clearly saying that they have a (physical) disorder. They were born with the wrong body. Someone with anorexia often claims there is nothing wrong.