Wesley Sneijder - AM LC - Galatasaray (21 Viewers)

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KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I still don't like this deal. Hopefully Galas DS won't give in, don't want us to spend more than 2-3 million on this guy.
Has he really been THAT bad lately that someone with his skills only warrants 2-3 million?

Last I saw him was in the World Cup, and he certainly didn't look out of place.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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It doesn't if you have proper players for it. In the end I think we'd be better off with 433. Easier to find wingers than AMs these days. We also have Berardi and Coman who could very well play 433.
Exactly. We need players who can attack 90 mins with flair and fancy ...as stupid as it sounds. This team is waaaay too slow and static. Something int he lines of Coman, Morata Berardi would be interesting...sadly...all those 3 are very young and lack xperience to guide this team on all fronts. But i prefer to risk it and try at least morata and coman instead of relying on llorente.

Just 1 month ago 4-3-1-2 was the Jesus Christ of our tactics and now it's universally considered $#@!.

I think the problem may be deeper than tactics.
Yes they are, its a combination of tactics, with form, with lack of hunger and even a mater of age/performance.

in 4312 when we push both lichtsteiner and evra up to provide the width we lack, we just leave a lot of space exposed at the back. this allows the other opposition to counter-attack the hell out of us. a more balanced team would consist of 2 wingers that are hardworking as well as being agressive and 1 striker upfront like in a 433 or 4231. however if we revert back to 352 then we know we lack that attacking edge that we need but of course we will be more sure at the back. if we were to make 4312 permanent then we must make sure the fullbacks don't attack as much and also that out AM can make us for the lack of width. When milan had kaka inzaghi and shevchenko they all rotatated and caused the defence trouble. however when we have vidal (who drops back), llorente who just holds up the ball we are not going to get anywhere. We need a mobile striker like falcao and a creative attacking midfielder who likes to run like isco or firmino.
We need younger attackers who can take the bull by the horns and carry the team, while the midfielders stay as midfielders and the fullbacks stay as defenders instead of the pseudo wingers we re trying to deploy. We need cohesion at the back...but since our attack lacks..we re sending our fullbacks and midfielders to the front without any sort of paln or idea.... then we are exposed because we all know our CB are the not the most quick or skilled.

As long as we continue neglecting younger players who can attack wide...we will continue suffering.

Liek someone said...Sneijder will do ok as a transfer,,, but is not what we need. I was happy with a change to a back 4...but it seems the team is slowly playing like wew ere before...and the honeymoon with the 4312 is like gone.
 

KB824

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why don't we just loan a good attacking midfielder than can play in CL.
Well, that's the problem right there. Who is available?

You would have to find an Attacking Midfielder who is playing at a mid level club.

Given the recent history, the only mid table clubs that Juve deal with are in Serie A.

Now, what AM or Trequartista that would be available in Serie A would you want
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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Well, that's the problem right there. Who is available?

You would have to find an Attacking Midfielder who is playing at a mid level club.

Given the recent history, the only mid table clubs that Juve deal with are in Serie A.

Now, what AM or Trequartista that would be available in Serie A would you want
I would gamble with Diego Perrotti but I don't think he'll be available for less than 15 million
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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Has he really been THAT bad lately that someone with his skills only warrants 2-3 million?

Last I saw him was in the World Cup, and he certainly didn't look out of place.
Thats why i think he wll do ok. he is not done... but i think our problems lie deeper than just getting a band aid like him. Our attck really lacks as a whole. Im not sure if one man will do the trick...when we have players like llorente who are not helping the team like he should...or someone like Licht who is day after day looking moe like a misfit in that RB position.
 

KB824

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Thats why i think he wll do ok. he is not done... but i think our problems lie deeper than just getting a band aid like him. Our attck really lacks as a whole. Im not sure if one man will do the trick...when we have players like llorente who are not helping the team like he should...or someone like Licht who is day after day looking moe like a misfit in that RB position.

I don't think he's done either. That's why I see these comments about him being worth only 2-3 million and I just scratch my head. No offense @Ocelot

I think he could help in Serie A, and could actually take the pressure off of Tevez to not have to play so far back all the time.

I would have preferred Shaquiri if I had an inkling of them switching to a more winger based formation next year.

At this point though, the midfield is better served with Pogba-Marchisio-Vidal with Sneijder in front of them, than the current setup where you have Vidal playing out of place as a Trequartista, and Pirlo being constantly exposed out there.

I won't jump for joy if he arrives, but I can kinda, sorta see how this would help a couple of positions at one time. Too bad it wouldn't be for the CL, though
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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I'll tell you one thing. If this move guarantees that we're playing Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba as much as possible, I will be way happier.

But if we're planning to play Sneijder and Pirlo at the same time. Just :sergio:
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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I don't think he's done either. That's why I see these comments about him being worth only 2-3 million and I just scratch my head. No offense @Ocelot

I think he could help in Serie A, and could actually take the pressure off of Tevez to not have to play so far back all the time.

I would have preferred Shaquiri if I had an inkling of them switching to a more winger based formation next year.

At this point though, the midfield is better served with Pogba-Marchisio-Vidal with Sneijder in front of them, than the current setup where you have Vidal playing out of place as a Trequartista, and Pirlo being constantly exposed out there.

I won't jump for joy if he arrives, but I can kinda, sorta see how this would help a couple of positions at one time. Too bad it wouldn't be for the CL, though
I really hope that happens, because that way Llorente wouldn't be isolated like he is now which as he himself said isn't suting him at all.
 

KB824

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I'll tell you one thing. If this move guarantees that we're playing Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba as much as possible, I will be way happier.

But if we're planning to play Sneijder and Pirlo at the same time. Just :sergio:

That would be beyond stupid. They may as well hire Zeman as coach and hope for 6-5 victories every week
 

KB824

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well i thought inter were too, then again they seem to be able to spend more money on better players all of a sudden
The total amount spent this January for them is, well, I don't know what it is, but it isn't much.

I can almost guarantee that they will have to sell off some of their more expensive players over the summer to make up for the obligation for Shaquiri, and if they decide to take up the option on Podolski.

And you haven't played Driveclub in a while. I can't keep holding our club on my shoulders for much longer, dude.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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I'll tell you one thing. If this move guarantees that we're playing Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba as much as possible, I will be way happier.

But if we're planning to play Sneijder and Pirlo at the same time. Just :sergio:
The thing is Allegri is too small to bench Pirlo I think. It's the same with Garcia and Totti.

I actually think 4312 isn't bad but basic thing that Allegri has to do is to remove Pirlo and place there Marchisio. It'll be much more balanced that way since Marchisio is pretty damn good at reading the game and defending. Him and Vidal playing a little bit deeper with Pogba/AM playing closer to Tevez and Llorente/CF would guarantee us being very solid at the back but also able to bring up a proper number of players upfront.
Imagine Marchisio and Vidal in front of Chiellini and Bonucci. Also with Marchisio as DM Pereyra could play B2B easily. I can't see Pereyra near Pirlo though.

But let's be honest: Allegri won't bench Pirlo for good, he's too small for that. Given that Sneijder mustn't come or we'll collapse in a spectacular way.
 

DelPieroJuve

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Well, that's the problem right there. Who is available?

You would have to find an Attacking Midfielder who is playing at a mid level club.

Given the recent history, the only mid table clubs that Juve deal with are in Serie A.

Now, what AM or Trequartista that would be available in Serie A would you want
Bruno Fernandes?
Franco Vázquez?( has been very good this season)
Felipe Anderson?

non serie a:

Adnan Januzaj ?
Éverton Ribeiro?
Evgen Konoplyanka? (if inter get him i will flip out, especially considering that he is going to be free)
 
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