[WC] World Cup 2014 - General Talk Thread (65 Viewers)

[CrimsonianKing]

so many players with 1000+ goals

Haha not really that many. Hardly 5 (by their maths), but see they add goals they scored from semi-pro days and whatnot. I never found it to be fair. That's why i liked the new list as it only counts competitive matches, no friendlies/preseason/etc... It shows why Romário was the best finisher and poacher of all time.

What i find impressive is... If look at Football history, look how hard it is for a striker to break the 400th goal mark. Hell, look how hard it is for some strikers of today to score a mere 100 goals. You can be a goal scoring machine like Raul or Ronaldo/Messi and still not even reach half of what players like Pelé, Romário or Puskas have reached. It's simply extraordinary, myth-like, really.

 

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[zizinho]

Haha not really that many. Hardly 5 (by their maths), but see they add goals they scored from semi-pro days and whatnot. I never found it to be fair. That's why i liked the new list as it only counts competitive matches, no friendlies/preseason/etc... It shows why Romário was the best finisher and poacher of all time.

What i find impressive is... If look at Football history, look how hard it is for a striker to break the 400th goal mark. Hell, look how hard it is for some strikers of today to score a mere 100 goals. You can be a goal scoring machine like Raul or Ronaldo/Messi and still not even reach half of what players like Pelé, Romário or Puskas have reached. It's simply extraordinary, myth-like, really.

it makes the goal record of these players even more impressive if you know that C.Ronaldo/Messi score 50-60 goals per season.

i have a question. do you remember a few years ago when Pele was selling gold-medals with his goals on them. Did he include all his goals or just those from competitive matches? and how much did he earn from those?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Selling gold medals with his goals? This is the first time i heard of it.

 

[zizinho]

here i found it myself dont really know if he was selling them

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/12/20/uk-soccer-pele-medals-idUKL203776020071220

 

[CrimsonianKing]

:facepalm2: He can be so stupid sometimes.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

sometimes?

 

[swag]

Neymar's new girlfriend.

But doesn't the T-shirt say it all?

 

[Zacheryah]

Iirc, Romario also counted goals from friendly games, and goals from the -19, whilst the statistics didnt, wich is why he claims he scored over 1000 and stats show 700something.

Also, didnt Pele score over 900 goals aswel ?

 

[zizinho]

Pele scored over 1200 (or 1400 not sure) total goals in which he counted goals from all competitions + friendlies, beach football etc. but the number of official goals that he scored in real competitive football was 757 in all competitions

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Also, didnt Pele score over 900 goals aswel ?

probably counted the one he scored in 'escape to victory'

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Iirc, Romario also counted goals from friendly games, and goals from the -19, whilst the statistics didnt, wich is why he claims he scored over 1000 and stats show 700something.

Also, didnt Pele score over 900 goals aswel ?

Yes, everyone who claims they scored over a 1000 goals take everything into consideration, friendlies and whatnot.

Pele scored over 1200 goals but the surprise here is that when you count only the competitive matches, in other words the real deal, Romario becomes the greatest scorer of all time.

Some people here laughed at me when i stated the fact that Romario was not only better than this-guy-i-also-love Baggio but would easily make it to a top 10 of all time. In front of goal, in the box he was the best striker there ever was, there is no equal.

 

[Vlad]

Yeah man, Id still laugh to that. Baggio>>>>>>>>>Romario all my life.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Yeah man, Id still laugh to that. Baggio>>>>>>>>>Romario all my life.

Different kind of players

 

[Emmet]

You cannot compare both players, Baggio is a no.10. Romario was a pure predator, a no.9, two very different types of players

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I fully agree you can't compare players with different roles. Unless it's in the context of a top-insert a number here- of all time list. Then it don't matter, what matter is what one has done in one's career.

Something i forgot to post; Top 10 still active players. Del Piero

 

[VidAL!123]

I fully agree you can't compare players with different roles. Unless it's in the context of a top-insert a number here- of all time list. Then it don't matter, what matter is what one has done in one's career.

Something i forgot to post; Top 10 still active players. Del Piero

del piero

 

[GrandeBarza]

Neymar's new girlfriend.

But doesn't the T-shirt say it all?

doesn't neymar have a child?

 

[swag]

doesn't neymar have a child?

 

[JamalRice10]

You cannot compare both players, Baggio is a no.10. Romario was a pure predator, a no.9, two very different types of players

Agreed. Thats like pitting a Magician vs a Gladiator.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

doesn't neymar have a child?

yep.